Russia to develop national OS

[countzero]

Now this is interesting.

[Lorraine]

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[bloodline]

You would be insane not to base a new OS on the Linux kernel now... It has millions of man hours worth of development and bug fixes... Not to mention hardware support...

[Speelgoedmannetje]

bloodline wrote:
You would be insane not to base a new OS on the Linux kernel now... It has millions of man hours worth of development and bug fixes... Not to mention hardware support...

Yes, but on the other hand, this eliminates inventiveness considering OS'es. Reinventing the wheel is not necessarily bad.

[bloodline]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

bloodline wrote:
You would be insane not to base a new OS on the Linux kernel now... It has millions of man hours worth of development and bug fixes... Not to mention hardware support...

Yes, but on the other hand, this eliminates inventiveness considering OS'es. Reinventing the wheel is not necessarily bad.

Linux is just a kernel... The OS you build on top of it is up to you... I think you would be hard pushed to try and build something better now... It provides all the features you could possibly want and runs on just about every CPU available... And you get bug fixes for free :-D

[the_leander]

I dunno though, whilst it is nice to see genuinely fresh operating systems, creating one that does even what say... BeOS could do costs 10's of millions, probably more when you consider what you can do today as opposed to 12 years ago.

Re-skinning Linux is, by comparason very cost effective.

[bloodline]

the_leander wrote:
I dunno though, whilst it is nice to see genuinely fresh operating systems, creating one that does even what say... BeOS could do costs 10's of millions, probably more when you consider what you can do today as opposed to 12 years ago.

Yeah, it's true... I have loads of ideas that I would
Like to try in terms of Kernel design and OS design... But when you actually think about it... You realize that anything you make will end up as a crappy Linux clone, without all the features and support... Instead it makes more sense to build your environment over the Linux kernel... The Linux kernel in effect becomes your hardware abstraction layer, and provides you with some helpful services too!

Re-skinning Linux is, by comparason very cost effective.

Well... It is a little more complex than just reskining Linux... You don't have to use X11 and the native file systems etc... If you build these systems to suit your needs you can have a very unique OS!

[bloodline]

the_leander wrote:
I dunno though, whilst it is nice to see genuinely fresh operating systems, creating one that does even what say... BeOS could do costs 10's of millions, probably more when you consider what you can do today as opposed to 12 years ago.

Yeah, it's true... I have loads of ideas that I would
Like to try in terms of Kernel design and OS design... But when you actually think about it... You realize that anything you make will end up as a crappy Linux clone, without all the features and support... Instead it makes more sense to build your environment over the Linux kernel... The Linux kernel in effect becomes your hardware abstraction layer, and provides you with some helpful services too!

Re-skinning Linux is, by comparason very cost effective.

Well... It is a little more complex than just reskining Linux... You don't have to use X11 and the native file systems etc... If you build these systems to suit your needs you can have a very unique OS!

[Speelgoedmannetje]

bloodline wrote:
Linux is just a kernel... The OS you build on top of it is up to you...

That depends on how you define 'OS'

I think you would be hard pushed to try and build something better now... It provides all the features you could possibly want and runs on just about every CPU available... And you get bug fixes for free :-D

The USSR has had it's very own way of developing software for driving of planes and rockets. They had assemblies of mathematicians and programmers working in a tight organisation.
This is something the West is still struggling with.
With the experience of these scientists, working in such an organisation, they could well make a kernel that runs circles around the Linux kernel, both in terms of performance as well as in functionality.
Or, because of a different approach, it might well be resulting in something different than we traditionally call an OS/Kernel, and can result in a revolution how we use/develop for the computer.

[bloodline]

Well computer technology is suffering from convergence... Everything is starting to look and work the same... Innovation only really exists at the begining of an ecosystem... After a while the less fit innovations die, while the good ideas get incorporated into the more fit systems.

[cecilia]

because they are using Linux will we be able to benefit from whatever they develop?

or is the KGB going to come after anyone who lets the "secrets" out?    :-D










I see a film plot developing here   :lol:

[pyrre]

The USSR has had it's very own way of developing.....

Be aware, the USSR (Soviet union) ceased to exist in the 90s.
It is Russia now in these modern times.
 :-D

[Speelgoedmannetje]

bloodline wrote: After a while the less fit innovations die, while the good ideas get incorporated into the more fit systems.

But you well know the innovations had nothing to do with what has been successfull or not, because there were other powers at work.

[bloodline]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

bloodline wrote: After a while the less fit innovations die, while the good ideas get incorporated into the more fit systems.

But you well know the innovations had nothing to do with what has been successfull or not, because there were other powers at work.

Notice I used the term "fittnes" rather than "good" or "more powerful" etc... Survival is dependant upon suitability in the ecosystem :-)

[Speelgoedmannetje]

What I meant to say is that there are more 'ecosystems' applicable to it which do not have anything to do with the suitability.