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AROS working hardware report and tips n trix
« on: January 26, 2009, 02:05:51 PM »
CPU: intel 600mhz PIII

MOBO: Asus P3V 4X
Comment: In bios, set ”Plug&Play OS” to NO other wise no sound, network or graphic card. It will fallback on vesa.

SOUND CARD: SB live. Works perfectly.
Comment: Set the correct driver in Sys:Prefs/AHI. Turn up the frequency to 22 or 44

NETWORK:
Comment. Uses rtl8139.device.  See wmvaros_Manual.pdf  for config. Don’t know the brand but rtl8139 was printed on the chips on two different cards I had laying around. Make sure rtl8139.device is in Devs/networks drawer. Se all files to make visible.

GRAPHIC CARD: Nvidia Geforce MX 440 SE
Comment. Use the Nividia driver set in grub2 menu at startup. Works perfectly in wmvaros 1.01 then use prefs/screenmodes to set resolution.(If you use vesa set the resolution direct in grub at startup)  For permanent loading change SYSTEM:boot/grub/grub.cfg and change nvidia to default loading or rather the number of witch one in the list of possible resolutions it shall load (0 will be the first). Boot drawer visible with “See all files” in aros. I use 1280*1024 24bit resolution and it’s snappy and fast.

E-UAE PREFORMANCE: I transferred a copied System partition in a map of Bloodwych’s classicwb full with help of filezilla ftp on the pc and the ftp server yafs started on aros. Loaded it in Euae with 68020 settings.  It works very well on the 600mzh. I tested Alienbreed tower assault and Heimdall2 AGA whdload  and both run flawless. Turned down sound resolution to 8bit in euae to save cpu power and sound mode normal instead of accurate. I have to add that the simplest solution is to use the amigaforever cd and everything will be taken care of by paulones wmvaros and amibridge will work with no problem.  Running classicWB was an experiment.

TRANSFERS: The filezilla plus yafs setup is really convenient. Filezilla sees the work partition and it easy to transfer back an fourth. If something prevents this setup to work there is another way. If aros is installed on an xp machine then aros will see the xp partiton. So one could download something then reboot into aros and access the file.  But this will soon be unnecessary when the browser allows direct contact with the net.

IMPRESSIONS: It handles well on the 600 mhz machine. Aros is fast and equally responsive as the vista64 on the core2duo 2,6ghz.  One has to be mindful of not cranking up the load on the workbench on euae when a modest cpu like the 600 is used. But it defiantly works on a 600 mhz.

The Amistart dock is well worth getting into. It is totally configurable. It is default set up with a windows like start menu, but can be reconfigured. I lifted out the”My soft ware”, “System” and “Tools” and made them like “drop up” menus, se pictures. I do miss toolsdaemon very much. I hope this gets ported so dropdown menu could be configured up in the upper list. (Could Ubuntus dropdown menus be ported??), so the amidock could be used more like a dock for the most important apps. ( Just a little wishing not important.)

INSTALLATION COMMENTS: I had this installed on a XP machine with 1 partition. If you are a “Try, cry then desperately read manual” kind of person remember this;  let it be unpartition space on the drive. Use the unpartitioned space in the installer. Set up both partitions System and work. And now this is very IMPORTANT!!! system have to be FFS.  Recommended space is 500-1000mb. Work can be SFS that is faster and as big as one like. (Too big and enormous amount of files in one drawer will be problem). It restarts and after that its minor room for error in the install.
DUAL BOOT: After install it will boot into aros. For making it dual boot go into aros drawer SYS:boot/grub/grub.cfg and add this between the other post in the list.

menuentry "Microsoft Windows"
{
chainloader (hd0,1)+1
}

This is if you did it like I did with just one XP partition first on the drive before the aros install.

Well this was long but I hope it could evoke some curiosity to test it like it was meant to be e.g natively installed.

Here som pictures

EDIT: Disregard that of using FFS for SYSTEM. In the new vmwaros 1.02 that is fixed and the recomendation is to USE SFS for SYSTEM. It is faster and more reliable filesystem that now works.

EDIT 2: in vmwaros 1.02, Yafs shared folder is changed from Work: to work:Extras/pub.






A1200 030 40MHz: 2/32MB Indivision AGA MkII
A600 7 MHz: 2MB
AROS 600 MHz
PC 13600 MHz: quad core i7 2600K 3.4GHz: 16GB RAM: ATI HD6950 2GB   (Yes I know)

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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2009, 02:22:03 PM »
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Re: AROS working hardware report and tips n trix
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2009, 02:36:32 PM »
@Lorraine

What machines did not work??

Maybe it was something in bios that could be adjusted.

I think one thing in newer machines is that sata have to be recognized as ide. some legacy setting.

Another thing is that it want just one hd. At least it was so before.

Then it could possibly if it is older be something with the plug n play os setting.

There are people far far insightfuller than me to answer that.

If you have a bunch of pc's the odds are very high that some of them will work.


A1200 030 40MHz: 2/32MB Indivision AGA MkII
A600 7 MHz: 2MB
AROS 600 MHz
PC 13600 MHz: quad core i7 2600K 3.4GHz: 16GB RAM: ATI HD6950 2GB   (Yes I know)

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Re: AROS working hardware report and tips n trix
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2009, 02:59:56 PM »
Good job!
Wanna try a wonderfull strategy game with lots of handdrawn anims,
Magic Spells and Monsters, Incredible playability and lastability,
English speech, etc. Total Chaos AGA
 

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Re: AROS working hardware report and tips n trix
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2009, 03:03:03 PM »
A bug in the ata.device has recently been discovered which causes the IDE to freak out when both PATA and SATA devices are present on the chipset... The VmwAROS distribution predates the fix...

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Re: AROS working hardware report and tips n trix
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2009, 04:45:32 PM »
Please try the latest VmwAROS Live 1.0.2. It contains disk driver with several corrections.

http://live.vmwaros.org/
 

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Re: AROS working hardware report and tips n trix
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2009, 05:27:03 PM »
I just tried the latest nightly build on my acer 5051AWXMi Notebook and it bootet for the first time ever ! Damn good Job.
I also like very much, that my fat partitions are auto-mounted !
 

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Re: AROS working hardware report and tips n trix
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2009, 05:45:58 PM »
Dude, what game is that?  I gotta get a copy!
 

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Re: AROS working hardware report and tips n trix
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2009, 05:59:33 PM »
It's Alienbreed tower assult in the first picture. great game!
A1200 030 40MHz: 2/32MB Indivision AGA MkII
A600 7 MHz: 2MB
AROS 600 MHz
PC 13600 MHz: quad core i7 2600K 3.4GHz: 16GB RAM: ATI HD6950 2GB   (Yes I know)

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Re: AROS working hardware report and tips n trix
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2009, 10:20:16 PM »
So the new fixed ata drivers mean that the chance of immediate install success just went up.

And it also works on notebooks.
This is good news.
A1200 030 40MHz: 2/32MB Indivision AGA MkII
A600 7 MHz: 2MB
AROS 600 MHz
PC 13600 MHz: quad core i7 2600K 3.4GHz: 16GB RAM: ATI HD6950 2GB   (Yes I know)

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Re: AROS working hardware report and tips n trix
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2009, 03:28:55 AM »
Aros is definitely is not dead.
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2009, 04:58:13 AM »
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Re: AROS working hardware report and tips n trix
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2009, 06:11:51 AM »
I haven't looked at what exactly takes space but remember you
are looking at a distro, with a lot of goodies all ready configured for you just to start playing around with, som e games too.

If you relly want to do it all by yourself you can download
AROS nighlty with fits very nicely on a CD and start from "scratch".

PS. Or on a USB stick
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Re: AROS working hardware report and tips n trix
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2009, 07:28:33 AM »
Hi Cicero, thanks for this wonderful report. There has been some little change in version 1.0.2 which might interest you.

First of all, ATA device now acts like former 'emergency mode' kernel before, meaning that you should be able to install AROS and boot it flawlessly on a SFS partition, which is faster and safer. FFS has the habit of crashing and creating holes in the filesystem, which is really bad. And it's painfully slow.

'emergency mode' kernel has been kept as a desperate last hope, though.

Also: look in the "backup" drawer of AmiBridge, you should find right settings for AmigaOS 3.x screenmode and overscan.
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Re: AROS working hardware report and tips n trix
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2009, 07:30:24 AM »
Quote

Lorraine wrote:
I don't understand why it needs a DVD though; I thought AROS was small.


AROS is small. VmwAROS is not. And it will grew even faster in the future.  ;-)
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