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Re: MS Windows 7
« Reply #74 from previous page: January 11, 2009, 09:31:09 PM »
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Ah, thank both of you.  "Ease of Access" eh?  heheheh  So, are they trying to imply that I am "special need" if I want the Classic Theme?  I feel discriminated against.  Anyone for a class-action?  :crazy:


Yep.  You're a retard for wanting to use the classic theme on Windows 7.  (Actually, I think they're just there for quick presets, because the Windows 7 Basic theme and a couple high-contrast themes are there too.)

BTW, to correct some information in the thread.  Windows NT 3.5x had the same interface as Windows 3.x, not the newer Windows 95/NT4 "Explorer".  And, Windows 2000 theme WAS different than 95/NT4, it had gradiant colors in the title bars.  :-P
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Re: MS Windows 7
« Reply #75 on: January 11, 2009, 09:58:27 PM »
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Re: MS Windows 7
« Reply #76 on: January 11, 2009, 10:09:44 PM »
@all

Posting this from inside Windows 7 Public Beta running inside VirtualBox! It's pretty good actually, RAM usage is 316MB here ... (So were back to XP amounts of RAM usage)

Installed Firefox and Windows Live Messenger...

Heres a few screenshots:

http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/3/1/11/f_Win7MemUsagm_bbf6bbe.jpg

(Link due to large image size)



Also, I did have a picture with the Windows Classic theme but i've lost it, but Windows Classic is still there (I was worried MS would completely remove it...)

Startup is quite slow but i'm pretty sure thats because i'm using a VM. To install I set 800MB as the RAM size but now it's installed i've reduced that to 512MB and it runs very comfortably... it's definitely an improvement on Vista, i'm sure on real hardware with Aero enabled its even better.

Now I better stop, giving MS too much praise isn't healthy.  ;-)
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Re: MS Windows 7
« Reply #77 on: January 11, 2009, 10:23:41 PM »
Also IMHO they sort of ruined the taskbar... when you "pin" items to the taskbar when you launch them they launch at that point, so if you want to launch another instance of the app you either have to go to the start menu, the desktop, or the application window (E.g. File -> New) Whereas before (In all previous versions of Windows) you just clicked the Quick Launch icon again.

I know its supposed to be a new way of launching programs in Windows 7, i'm just not sure its the right one.

I think it going to lead to alot of shortcuts on the desktop, or excessive use of the inbuilt search (Which I admit is good)

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Re: MS Windows 7
« Reply #78 on: January 11, 2009, 10:43:54 PM »
Ok, I've had a play with Win7... The install was really nice, much like the MacOS X install, quick and simple.

But the whole system architecture has changed from XP, ok I missed Vista so I'm a Win generation behind... But this is too far for me... I'm too old to be bothered to learn "yet another OS"... I'm bored enough by the infinite Linux distributions...

I struggled though the various options, but could't get it do do anything that I wanted... 15 min to find a command line is too long!!! I don't have any Windows Apps anymore, so I don't really feel the need to continue with this experiment any longer. Back to my OSX 10.5 :-)
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Re: MS Windows 7
« Reply #79 on: January 11, 2009, 10:48:36 PM »
@DBAlex

To launch another copy of an application you can right click, then select the application name (same way you pin/unpin and close all windows)

You can always create a new quicklaunch style toolbar.  Just create a new toolbar (which is just a folder), and put your shortcuts in there as below (see bottom corner).



Note: You don't have to use small icons, or show the title of the toolbar.  I just left it there so you could see.
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Re: MS Windows 7
« Reply #80 on: January 11, 2009, 10:53:52 PM »
@bloodline

It took you 15 minutes to click the Windows button, type CMD, and press enter?  Mac users... :-P  

(Actually, it took me about as long to find the shell in OSX the first time, I kept clicking on Console and wondering why I couldn't type anything!   :lol:)
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Re: MS Windows 7
« Reply #81 on: January 11, 2009, 11:01:31 PM »
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It took you 15 minutes to click the Windows button, type CMD, and press enter?  Mac users. :-P  

(Actually, it took me about as long to find the shell in OSX the first time, I kept clicking on Console and wondering why I couldn't type anything!   :lol:)


First I had to activate the "Run" option in the start menu... There are so many options which seemingly do nothing :-? The interface is very busy, and the default colour scheme kinda sux for me :-(

I struggled with OSX when I first tried it... but my problems were all related to no knowing where stuff is, and moving from Tiger to Leopard required no re-learning... with Win7, I actually just don't know what I'm supposed to do to get stuff working... My 8 years with Win98/2000/XP seem to count for nothing. :-(
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Re: MS Windows 7
« Reply #82 on: January 11, 2009, 11:05:19 PM »
So does this new task bar essentially work like the OS X dock?  The descriptions I've seen so far seem to lean that way.
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Re: MS Windows 7
« Reply #83 on: January 11, 2009, 11:05:58 PM »
@bloodline

You actually didn't.  Anything you would type into the run dialog you can just type into the search box now.  (ex. CMD, C:\, http://www.amiga.org, etc.)  
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Re: MS Windows 7
« Reply #84 on: January 11, 2009, 11:08:46 PM »
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You actually didn't.  Anything you would type into the run dialog you can just type into the search box now.  (ex. CMD, C:\, http://www.amiga.org, etc.)  


Oops! I didn't think to search for it! :oops: Old windows search was so terrible I avoided...
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Re: MS Windows 7
« Reply #85 on: January 11, 2009, 11:09:21 PM »
@adolescent
Ok, Cool... I just like the way the old taskbar worked...

Also have you noticed this with the new taskbar: if you click on an window title from the taskbar and there is more than one instance then clicking it doesn't minimise (XP and Vista DO do this even when applications are "Grouped")...

Hope that can be changed too, I am used to clicking on window titles in the taskbar to minimize/restore windows.

and, @bloodline, 15 mins to find the Command Line?!?!?!?@@@!@!@!@!@

PEBKAC "Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair".  :lol:  :-P (Hehe, just kidding)
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Re: MS Windows 7
« Reply #86 on: January 11, 2009, 11:13:36 PM »
@uncharted

Yes.  It's similar in the way you can keep things on the task bar.  Also, items that are aware of the new task bar have some special features (i.e. showing recent items, history,  etc.).  Otherwise, it's an evolution of the previous application grouping found in XP.

@bloodline

You don't need to let the search finish (if you know what you're looking for).  I just type in what I want and hit enter.
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Re: MS Windows 7
« Reply #87 on: January 11, 2009, 11:15:16 PM »
@uncharted

Yes but not everyone wants it to work like that...

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Re: MS Windows 7
« Reply #88 on: January 11, 2009, 11:18:26 PM »
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You don't need to let the search finish (if you know what you're looking for).  I just type in what I want and hit enter.


Yes, I've just tried it, it works just like the MacOSX search... thank goodness... the XP search was HORRIBLE!!!
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Re: MS Windows 7
« Reply #89 on: January 11, 2009, 11:22:51 PM »
@DBAlex

Haven't worked out all the new shortcuts yet.  But, it does look like group minimize is not there.  Turns out Shift-Click opens another copy of the application (like the right click I mentioned before), and Ctrl-Click cycles between group windows.  

One thing to note is that the help is from Vista, so it isn't 100% accurate.
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