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Offline yaqube

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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #584 from previous page: July 27, 2010, 02:32:23 PM »
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Is it the Mikej's project (the 68k pipelined implementation)?
No. Mike is working on a cycle exact version of the plain 68000. The work is far from complete.

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So now your version supports the full extension word format.

It's not my version. All work has been done by Tobias. I'm only testing it.

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Is it compatible with one byte aligned data?

Not yet.

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Have you added a 68020's style cache to save some bus cycles?
It's on the way. Should be done soon. The plan is to get double 4-way set associative (so like a 040 or 060) burst enabled snooping cache.
 

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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #585 on: July 27, 2010, 02:37:42 PM »
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How much work/time is remaining on the softcore 68020 before it's workable?

The answer is unknown (or maybe the answer is 42 :D).

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Maybe 020 software doesn't really use that many 020 specific instructions?

It strictly depends on the software. It's already possible to run some 020 specific programs.

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Hope MMU / FPU softcores follows ;)

Unfortunately there is no such plan.
 

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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #586 on: July 30, 2010, 01:33:58 PM »
Hi.

I'm considering to buy a minimig, but after seen fpgarcade, it's a awesome project!, i read some pages of this huge post, but i have some questions, when fpgarcade will be available? will be mounted (my soldering skills are bad) and what will be the price expected?
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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #587 on: July 30, 2010, 04:28:24 PM »
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Hi.

I'm considering to buy a minimig, but after seen fpgarcade, it's a awesome project!, i read some pages of this huge post, but i have some questions, when fpgarcade will be available? will be mounted (my soldering skills are bad) and what will be the price expected?



It will be available sometime in the future  ;-) , the boards will be populated (at least the surface mount stuff), and no price has been mentioned AFAIK.

The project has been kind of slow but i don't believe it's vaporware.  Just a pet project they work on when time permits.  Doesn't help it's a pretty ambitious project...

It is a very interesting project and hopefully something may materialize later this year...
 

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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #588 on: August 02, 2010, 04:04:02 PM »
Back from holiday so I will harass the production company.
It's certainly talking longer than I expected, but we are in the home straight now.
/Mike
 

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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #589 on: August 02, 2010, 05:07:16 PM »
Have you determined a price yet?  Have all of the first run boards been spoken for?
 

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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #590 on: August 21, 2010, 09:44:37 AM »
Hey Mike... Any news?
 

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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #591 on: August 22, 2010, 10:27:37 PM »
I'm talking to another couple of SMD assembly companies here trying to get a slot.
It's daft, I could get 100+ made tomorrow in China, but I have the prototype parts at home and I need to get the first 10 then 50 made to prove the board is ok.
It is frustrating.
I can't finalize a price either until the assembly costs are nailed down - it is really really expensive to set this up.
Again, as soon as I know you guys will know.
/Mike
 

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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #592 on: August 22, 2010, 10:40:03 PM »
Well Mike having tried to do a run of MiniMigs you have my support. Will buy one for sure when it's available.
 

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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #593 on: August 22, 2010, 10:47:38 PM »
Sorry to hear that you are having such troubles with the production where you are.  It is sad that it is so much cheaper and easier (for the most part) to have it done in China.  Just another step in making the rest of us just consumers and the producers are all in other countries.  Where is that going to lead all of us I am afraid to think about.
How are you helping the Amiga community? :)
 

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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #594 on: August 22, 2010, 11:18:55 PM »
Replay RevB Pricing.

The exchange rates are all over the place, and until I get production scheduled and the boards in my hand these prices are subject to change.

The NRE costs for production are much higher than I expected, so I have to recover some of these costs over the first 50 boards.

So, the full card (with SVHS/Composite out) is looking like 220Euro today. The "light" card without SVHS/composite is 200Euro. Thats about the same as a Minimig with the memory upgrade, and what I've been saying all along.

The bad news is I have to pay sales tax here on the first boards, so thats an additional 25%. I'll include a EU plug power supply for the first 50 boards :)

Being totally honest up-front, boards after the first 50 will be at least 25% cheaper and sales tax will be payable on import if you are outside the EU so thats another 25%.

From the quotes I've been getting from China we should be able to get down to 150 Euros for the fully loaded board for production quantities, assuming there is enough interest after the first 50.

I have all the parts for the first 50 so they are going to happen for sure, after that I'll set up a list - if we get to 50 or more we'll do another run.

I'll mail all of you who have expressed an interested with a firm price when the board is finally ready for shipping.

Let me know what you think.
/Mike
 

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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #595 on: August 22, 2010, 11:31:10 PM »
Well within acceptable price range for me at least :)
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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #596 on: August 22, 2010, 11:50:04 PM »
Also acceptable for me. Can't wait to get one. :)
 

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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #597 on: August 23, 2010, 12:42:45 AM »
150 Euros is a great price, a definite must-have purchase.
 

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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #598 on: August 23, 2010, 06:36:36 AM »
Price is well within the acceptable range... I'd be happy with either the first run or a later one.
 

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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #599 on: August 23, 2010, 06:58:51 AM »
Hi Mike,

I send the parts of to china with DHL express (shiping cost divided over the forst 50 board).
You can get the boards there for around 150€ thats a lot cheaper then in europe.
And the production can start tomorrow you say ;-)

I think this is quicker and cheaper, but I will be in for one if you decision is to produce it localy.
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