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Re: FS: Blizzard 2060
« Reply #134 from previous page: January 05, 2009, 09:30:55 PM »
I won't sell here either, but sometimes that doesn't matter.  There was a thread recently where someone saw one of my items for sale on EBay and commented on it.  Soon the thread was off and running just like other people have stated here.  I was trying to sell the item for exactly what I had paid but this forum was full of people finding fault with the item (which there was none) and going on about how it was overpriced and others had sold for less.  I guess on this forum it's OK to sell things for less than their value but if you want market value you "lack decency".  There are 3 people on this thread who have been idiots since ReDrums first statement.  I don't have to name names because if you have read the thread it is very obvious.

If you hit somebody over the head with a 2X4 it's gonna hurt no matter how many times the person striking the blow says they're sorry.  This is a foreign concept to several of the people in this thread.
 

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Re: FS: Blizzard 2060
« Reply #135 on: January 05, 2009, 10:40:44 PM »
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ZeBeeDee wrote:

 You want the item? You pay a reasonable price for it. If you don't like the price then go elsewhere, that is your perogative. If you want to trade items via places like amibay then thats fine, go right ahead ... that too is your perogative.



Agree 100% - and here's the crazy of crazy points that really hasn't been touched on:

99% of the time it isn't the person putting up the item that creates the crazy price - it's the people bidding on it.

I mean I've seen some things with starting crazy prices before - but they aren't the norm.

Recently I saw a flicker fixer start out at 20 bucks. It ended up being sold for 200.

This wasn't the seller being 'greedy' it was the market wanting the item.

I think it would be a safe mans bet that if you had people bid on an item even on a forum you'd get exactly the same result.

As for me - I made up my mind long long ago I wasn't going to sell stuff on here after a rather 'heated debate' over parting a system out.

 

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Re: FS: Blizzard 2060
« Reply #136 on: January 06, 2009, 12:18:54 AM »
tone007, doctorq, ZeBeeDee, and whoever else it may concern:

The funniest thing is, if you guys were not on this cheerleader-like crusade to paint Redromola as some kind of martyr over this issue, you might actually see that the essence of what myself and others (such as ffstrack, Save2600, etc) were actually saying was in favour of YOUR right to choose exactly what YOU, as a seller, wanted to charge for your items - without the fear of having some cretin rear his ugly little head in the middle of your FS thread questioning your prices.

You guys are narrowing your blinkered focus on a few choice words which were basically used to PROVE Redromola's motives behind shouting out "waaaay too cheap". I can see the tactic, and how it benefits your Red-crusade, but common - it's pretty deceitful and low. In other words, yes, the word "capitalist" was used to label him, because he is a self-confessed Amiga capitalist and THAT was (as he himself admitted) HIS reason/motivation for making the initial comment he made. We couldn't exactly say: "hey Red, your reasons for your uncalled for comment were Communistic" or benevolent non-commercial socialism now, could we? We'd have to save the "socialist" label for someone who shouted "waaaay tooo high!!" - obviously.

Capitalism was given as a REASON for Red's comment and that reason does not excuse him attempting to price-hike a sale between enthusiasts, now does it? By the same token, favouring "community pricing" does not give you any more moral high ground to shout "way to expensive", imo.

And, just to prove my point, here is a quote from a post I made in this thread where a user was saying the exact polar opposite of Redrumola's, basically he said: "waaaay to cheap!!" and I had a few choice words to say to him also:-

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   "wurzel: I suggest you get your calculator out, do your sums and add up the going rate for the components included in the system. the individual components alone will add up to not far off his £950 asking price. and when you figure in eBay/PayPal fees and the amount of work that has obviously gone into building the system - it's not that far off the mark.

    why do people hate to see regular people make a little money? it's not this guy's fault that you're broke."



I assure you, if I had my way you could charge exactly what you wanted (hiking your prices beyond all known limits - if you wish!) and never have to hear another "waaaay too much!!!" again. But I guess that will never happen, because by you defending Red's actions and purposefully misconstruing the MAIN point of people's concern in this thread, trolls will forever feel the "right" to give their unwelcomed opinion on what YOU are or aren't charging for YOUR items - in the full knowledge that that "right" will be backed and defended by the "community".

Unless, as I suspect, the only people who actually get defended on this topic are moderators and people who are "liked", or who have posted "99.9% interesting threads about Minimig projects". Childish, you're not children and you shouldn't have to agree with EVERY action a person makes just because you "like" them.

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Re: FS: Blizzard 2060
« Reply #137 on: January 06, 2009, 12:32:00 AM »
With all these posts, did the card ever sell?  Just curious.  A Blizzard 2060 is nice to have.

I think I paid about $300 for one back in 2005.  One day I'll put BSD on it as I have continuously threatened to do.  Need to replace my aging backup NS/MX server, Sun SparcStation IPX.   :-D
 

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Re: FS: Blizzard 2060
« Reply #138 on: January 06, 2009, 12:35:19 AM »
LoadWB: yes, I believe...somehow through all the mania, Save2600 managed to purchase it. And I dont think red's comment swayed Christian, so he didn't charge double :-)
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Re: FS: Blizzard 2060
« Reply #139 on: January 06, 2009, 12:38:45 AM »
@ arkanoid

I do trade in peace ... and will continue to do so TYVM :-)

Type away or just let it go ... your choice, I really don't care.

Just out of interest though ... Now that Redrumloa has gone(?), who's next hmmmm?
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Re: FS: Blizzard 2060
« Reply #140 on: January 06, 2009, 12:43:15 AM »
ZeBeeDee: I like typing, it varies the workout I give my fingers - besides the nightly five-knuckle shuffle.

However, I think you guys are going to give me RSI from having to repeat the same crap over and over...  :crazy:
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Re: FS: Blizzard 2060
« Reply #141 on: January 06, 2009, 12:44:40 AM »
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ZeBeeDee: I like typing, it varies the workout I give my fingers - besides the nightly five-knuckle shuffle.

However, I think you guys are going to give me RSI from having to repeat the same crap over and over...  :crazy:


Well, maybe you should stop typing crap ... think about it  :-) And whilst you are knocking one, try changing hands - it might help your RSI.

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Re: FS: Blizzard 2060
« Reply #142 on: January 06, 2009, 12:50:19 AM »
 :lol:

but it's REALLY hard. you guys keep pushing my buttons with your one sided comments...
but I'm going to try harder now...honest

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Re: FS: Blizzard 2060
« Reply #143 on: January 06, 2009, 12:53:25 AM »
Just for you arkanoid ... your very own button - enjoy!

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Re: FS: Blizzard 2060
« Reply #144 on: January 06, 2009, 12:56:17 AM »
@ LoadWB:

 Yes, I purchased this from Christian and it should be in transit as we speak. I have been wanting an 060 for some time for my A2000. Have dealt with him on Usenet a decade it ago and was glad to see him still involved in Miggy stuff.  

@ Arkanoid:

 Thanks for having more energy to explain, re-explain, iterate, re-iterate to the cheerleaders than I. Lots of moot points now as people have {bleep}ised the entire point(s). The one lesson I believe I've learned here (and others before me) is that you can hardly do ANY transacting in peace. To this end, may just be better off keeping the 2 issues compartmentalised: sales & hobby type discussion. I suspect Red was getting fed up some time ago and this was the last straw for him. For better or for worse.

All we can do now is move on. I'm ready... is everyone else yet?


 

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Re: FS: Blizzard 2060
« Reply #145 on: January 06, 2009, 01:30:18 AM »
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arkanoid wrote:
tone007, doctorq, ZeBeeDee, and whoever else it may concern:


You guys are narrowing your blinkered focus on a few choice words which were basically used to PROVE Redromola's motives behind shouting out "waaaay too cheap". I can see the tactic, and how it benefits your Red-crusade, but common - it's pretty deceitful and low.



LOL.

Which choice words were those again? Was that where he was accused of having multiple accounts on Amibay in order to bilk the masses - or was it when he as a moderator was going to lock the thread?

Because I think those were pretty deceitful, and low.
(and both proven untrue as well).

BTW wouldn't know Red from Adam - and I'm sure he's the same way about me... After reading both threads from start to finish - I think he made a pretty funny comment and folks foamed at the mouth.. and the majority of the foaming wasn't from him.

 

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Re: FS: Blizzard 2060
« Reply #146 on: January 06, 2009, 01:59:38 AM »
Sig999:

I've put ZeBeeDees button on my wall...and I'm not going to press it!!

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Re: FS: Blizzard 2060
« Reply #147 on: January 06, 2009, 02:05:33 AM »
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Which choice words were those again? Was that where he was accused of having multiple accounts on Amibay in order to bilk the masses - or was it when he as a moderator was going to lock the thread?

Because I think those were pretty deceitful, and low.
(and both proven untrue as well).


(Ok have to come off the bench for this one, sorry).

Now now.  If Red's comments should be supposedly taken in the best light then its only fair you grant arkanoid the same courtesy.  He did not make a direct accusation.  He implied it might be so out of anger, just like red did stuff out of anger.  The difference, arkanoid apologized.  And the comment about locking the thread I believe was someone else, I think you are referring to the comment from the user "Ideal", where he actually said he expected his post to be deleted?  
 

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Re: FS: Blizzard 2060
« Reply #148 on: January 06, 2009, 02:11:40 AM »
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ZeBeeDee wrote:

If, for example I had 10 Indivision AGA1200's to sell and nobody else had any, how many people would be biting their own legs off to get hold of one even if they paid $10 over the RRP? How many? LOADS! thats how many ... Supply and demand.


Well, if you got those by buying them in heaploads when available, only to resell them later with profit when the stores are sold out, I wouldnt bother calling you a capitalist, I'd call you an asshole and exploiter, no need to bring in fancy -isms.
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Re: FS: Blizzard 2060
« Reply #149 on: January 06, 2009, 02:21:33 AM »
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 I'd call you an asshole and exploiter, no need to bring in fancy -isms.


Thats Mr Rich Asshole or Mr Exploiter if you please ... and you'd still pay if you needed the item, despite your attempts at flattery  :-)
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