Chinese 68060 Rev 6

[redrumloa]

alexh wrote:
Believe me, they did not reverse engineer and re-create a 68060. The documentation is extremely limited on how exactly the 68060 works.

Plus there is no market for volume 68060 chips.

Exactly, there is no market for volume. It wouldn't make sense. China is the leading recycler of electronics (not in a green way either). It only makes sense to resell any parts of value. A couple dozen 68060 pulls here and there eagerly gobbled up by Amigans and Atarians will make a little money. Reverse engineering and producing clones would never make back development costs.

[Jose]

It says that chips are for collection only, after saying it's 100% working. Anyone bought from him ? I'd get 1 or 2 but I want to be sure it's in decent state.

[Kin-Hell]

Looking at his plethora of CPU's, one of the 060 pics he has shows what looks like a big round screwdriver gouge in it.
I'd be hoping not to receive something looking like that:

[broken]

So, for you folks that are buying these loose 060 cpu's, what are you planning to do with them?

Upgrade an existing 040 board?

[delshay]

another way to tell if the CPU is real is to clean it ( watch the white marking come off ( and im not joking ).

[alexh]

broken wrote:
what are you planning to do with them?
Upgrade an existing 040 board?

Or overclock an existing 060 board.

[asymetrix]

what are these MC68060FE133 cpus ?

http://www.chinaicmart.com/series-MC6/MC68060.html

A new Minimig with a 68060 would be nice

Ordering large batches of  parts would reduce the price a fair bit.

If only the Minimig clone makers work together and order parts together.

[AJCopland]

I have no idea and haven't gotten a reply when I've asked before, the datasheet (pdf) linked too is about the 68060 but nothing actually mentions the FE133 version.

I'd suggest that it doesn't actually exist and is possibly a mistake or something since neither Motorola nor FreeScale have any information regarding a cpu with that designation.

It'd be nice to find out though.

Andy

[Darrin]

Excuse my ignorance, but does a 68060 fit into a 68040 socket with no modifications?

I have a Warp Engine 3040 Accelerator in my A4000 and I wouldn't mind an easy upgrade to a 68060.

[taunusand]

Darrin wrote:
Excuse my ignorance, but does a 68060 fit into a 68040 socket with no modifications?

I have a Warp Engine 3040 Accelerator in my A4000 and I wouldn't mind an easy upgrade to a 68060.

You need to install a voltage regulator, install a new eprom, replace the crystal oscillator and replace the cpu.

PG here at Amiga.org knows how to do it :-)

[Darrin]

taunusand wrote:

You need to install a voltage regulator, install a new eprom, replace the crystal oscillator and replace the cpu.

PG here at Amiga.org knows how to do it :-)

Ah, thanks.  In other words, I can't do it without breaking it.  :-D

[asymetrix]

cheers for the info.

The FE is mentioned in the PDF, with specific connections. I have no idea what the 133 is.

Has anyone tried ordering from these companies ?

maybe even standard 68060 cpus could be had cheaply.

[rkauer]

Darrin wrote:
Excuse my ignorance, but does a 68060 fit into a 68040 socket with no modifications?

I have a Warp Engine 3040 Accelerator in my A4000 and I wouldn't mind an easy upgrade to a 68060.

 Unfortunately, the Warp Engine is not compatible with the 060, since the company never made a 060 version of it, and so no proper ROM/PLD commands/startup.

[stefcep2]

-D- wrote:
@Miloo

I just ordered one, when it arrives I'll let you know.

How did you go?

[Damion]

Hasn't arrived yet, but hopefully I'll get it in time for the weekend... (and hopefully it works, and overclocks, lol)

[Hammer]

Metalguy66 wrote:
You don't think "the Chinese" have the technology?

Would it surprise you to know that 5 out of 6 major chip foundaries capable of the highest scale of integration nowadayse are located in China, Korea, or Taiwan? In the last 5-10 years, they have shut-down/moved/sold-out of the US,Japan, and other countries.. Where do you think chips are comming from now, if not China?

My brother is an applications engineer for Legerity (Communications processor division of AMD) and spends MOST of his time in China nowadayze.. Im pretty sure "the Chinese" have the technology to reproduce the 68060, and much more modern processors as well.

http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Articles/2000/08/18/17356/amd-spin-off-legerity-names-former-compaq-exec-as-cfo.htm

"Last month, AMD completed the sale of 90 percent of its Communication Products Division for about $375 million in cash to the investment firm Francisco Partners. The newly acquired assets then became Legerity, an independent company. AMD still owns 10 percent of Legerity's shares."