Chinese 68060 Rev 6

[Miloo]

There are a few 68060 rev 6 on ebay, has anyone bought any. I've just asked one seller what the numbers are down the left hand side of the cpu and he's send a reply full of '?'s'.

I ask because I'm not sure of the authenticity of them.

[countzero]

I don't think chinese have neither the technology nor the motivation to duplicate the 68060. They're no 1 recyclers of electronic products now, most probably those 68060 were recycled from god knows whatever system that ended up in hong kong.

[Metalguy66]

You don't think "the Chinese" have the technology?

Would it surprise you to know that 5 out of 6 major chip foundaries capable of the highest scale of integration nowadayse are located in China, Korea, or Taiwan? In the last 5-10 years, they have shut-down/moved/sold-out of the US,Japan, and other countries.. Where do you think chips are comming from now, if not China?

My brother is an applications engineer for Legerity (Communications processor division of AMD) and spends MOST of his time in China nowadayze.. Im pretty sure "the Chinese" have the technology to reproduce the 68060, and much more modern processors as well.

Its very possible that some company has comissioned a new production run of 68060. It's a proven architecture, and still makes alot of sense for certain industrial/embedded applications. If this is the case, I wouldnt be surprised at all if the chips were being produced in China..

[countzero]

prfffffffffttt ... of course they have the technology to produce the silicon, they don't have the technology to replicate what's inside. And no reason as well. Why duplicate an obsolete useless processor ?

[wawrzon]

perhaps if this processor was usless it wouldnt be that pricey

[djbase]

countzero wrote:
prfffffffffttt ... of course they have the technology to produce the silicon, they don't have the technology to replicate what's inside. And no reason as well. Why duplicate an obsolete useless processor ?

Freescale still produces and sales them. Well, they are not cheap but they are available.

[jj]

And as most fake and copy chips, consoles etc are made by the factory making the stuff for the proper companies on the sly so to speak, its all very plausible

[ChaosLord]

Dear China Inc.

Please produce a run of 2000 68060 CPUs @800 Mhz for me.

Thank you very much.

[B00tDisk]

ChaosLord wrote:
Dear China Inc.

Please produce a run of 2000 68060 CPUs @800 Mhz for me.

Thank you very much.

Would you like fire extinguishers included or will you provide your own?

[Damion]

The most plausible explanation is that the chips are recycled, the date code on the chip in the pic says it was made in 99 (a year that mask was produced). Apparently some lesser rated chips were relabeled a while back, but I don't think that's the case here.

$55 isn't that expensive for Rev 6 '060s btw, although I've seen them even cheaper from sellers who don't know amiganerds are after them. ;-)

[nishtek]

@countzero

Absolutely agree with you.  You mileage may vary.  Basically you get what you pay for $30-50 price range will get you a recycled cpu. :lol:
We can sell a XC68060RC50 cpu for $100-125...
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39398  

[Damion]

@Miloo

I just ordered one, when it arrives I'll let you know.

[delshay]

the marking down the left hand side is not that important as some E41J end with 002.

if it ends with 004 or higher this is certain to be a E41J.

another way to check if its real is to overclock it to say 75Mhz & above.

[Metalguy66]

JJ wrote:
And as most fake and copy chips, consoles etc are made by the factory making the stuff for the proper companies on the sly so to speak, its all very plausible

Yeah I wouldnt be surprised if that is happening. The Customs services in countries whose laws protect patents/intellectual property rights, etc. do a pretty good job of keeping large shipments of counterfeit goods out of their markets. But thats not to say that the stuff isnt being manufactured on a smaller scale and sold elsewhere. The only thing that prevents it from happening on a larger scale is their dependance on manufacturing contracts from legitimate companies whose products serve bigger markets...

[Miloo]

@-D-

I ordered one as well just after I put this post up. The guys feedback was ok.

What would it cost to remark these cpus anyway - I paid £29 for one and it looks as if the seller has sold about 5 or 6 in the past 2 months - would it really be cost effective remarking old chips?