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Re: what's this about then...?
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2008, 11:27:13 AM »
another pirate copying and selling copyrighted material.
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Re: what's this about then...?
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2008, 11:29:50 AM »
I suspect the slightly dubious copying of kickstart ROMs?

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Re: what's this about then...?
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2008, 01:20:34 PM »
I've never really been able to get a straight answer as to who has new non-pirated 3.1 roms for sale?  You can get either old used 3.1 roms or somebody is pirating them.  Just because a person runs a legit store doesn't mean he has an endless supply of nos 3.1 roms that have been sitting around for 10 years.  Last I knew Amiga INC. wasn't producing them.  If we are going to be pointing a finger about new 3.1 roms being pirated, I think it has to be an all inclusive finger.  
 

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Re: what's this about then...?
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2008, 02:07:45 PM »
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I've never really been able to get a straight answer as to who has new non-pirated 3.1 roms for sale?

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Re: what's this about then...?
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2008, 02:28:21 PM »
What Warehouse in the Phillapeans are they getting them from?
 

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Re: what's this about then...?
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2008, 02:41:38 PM »
Does anyone really care.  In my eyes it is a good one if new roms are being produced licensed or not.
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Re: what's this about then...?
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2008, 03:17:47 PM »
Well, if the version you need is still legally on sale by any of the dealers then my feeling is that morally you should get it from the dealer. If, on the other hand, the version you need no longer is available then I guess no-one would be shooting you if you used this 'service' to get a replacement just to get your Amiga up and running again.

But no matter how, it remains a deep gray area, an area I wouldn't dare to dive into.



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Re: what's this about then...?
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2008, 03:28:07 PM »
As long as legit ROMs are still available for reasonable money it's at least unethical to make copies - even if the IP owner doesn't care. Actually SELLING and generating profit out of illegal copies is more than a bad joke.

Please support those Amiga dealers still around instead. And please report these sales to ebay to make it more difficult to run profit from this.
 

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Re: what's this about then...?
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2008, 03:37:20 PM »
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As long as legit ROMs are still available for reasonable money it's at least unethical to make copies - even if the IP owner doesn't care. Actually SELLING and generating profit out of illegal copies is more than a bad joke.

Please support those Amiga dealers still around instead. And please report these sales to ebay to make it more difficult to run profit from this.


I'm sure if AI knew about these pirates, they would attempt to shut then down.  That is what Gary Peake (RIP) use to do to pirate sites.  Although they maybe too busy with their law suit against Hyperion for using their IP to worry about small time EBay pirates.

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Re: what's this about then...?
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2008, 03:43:34 PM »
Just report all piracy to eBay as soon as you see it, they will pull the listing.

Last time I checked AmigaKit has a healthy stock that AFAIK are legal ROMs and pretty cheap. There is also Cloanto (Amiga Forever) who is a legal license holder.
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Re: what's this about then...?
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2008, 03:49:20 PM »
Who gives a {bleep}?

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Re: what's this about then...?
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2008, 04:27:34 PM »
This is starting to remind me of that new promo on TV for the Nixon/David Frost movie where Nixon is saying: "If the President of The United States is doing it, it must not be against the law" or something to that effect.

I repeat, Where is this Warehouse in the Phillapeans and do they have any new A3000T's, or FMV thingy's for the CD32?  Or is all that they have left items that are easily copied or bootlegged?

If all that the remaining Amiga user's have left to do with their time is to worry about turning in pirates of 3.1 roms than this hobby (Dream) is a lot closer to death than I realized.

If ReDrum is selling an A2000 motherboard that someone suspects might have a pirated 3.1 rom onboard is that person morally obligated to turn it in to ebay and have the listing removed and make ReDrum take the EBay Online course on what is copywrited and what isn't? (Been there, Done that.  I made the fatal mistake of trying to sell a new still sealed original copy of Windows 95 by itself, and not with the computer it was sold with. I'm sure my poor Mother thought she raised a better son than one to commit a crime like that)

Can someone on ebay sell a PIV board with copies of the installation disks when someone else is trying to sell one with originals?

This is a big can of worms being opened when you start turning people in or telling people to turn people in.
 

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Re: what's this about then...?
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2008, 04:37:00 PM »
@dannyp1

I don't speak for AmigaKit, but does it matter where they got their KS roms as long as they are legit? AmigaKit is not exactly price gouging, so why buy pirate roms for more money?
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Re: what's this about then...?
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2008, 06:17:18 PM »
Software piracy in the late 80s hurt the Amiga !I knew people in several different comnputer clubs and the C= fans and Atarians were PROUD of huge collections of pirated works ,the DOS/IBM people tended to buy more.Guess which system has the biggest market?Money or lack of it drives technology.
Now you think pirating sales from the few who still support Amiga with some reasonably priced items is fine?

If no one can make a profit there will be no more Amiga;blog cred does pay the rent or put food on the table.

 Should someone be able to sell illicit SAM clones if they could make garage copies ?