The legal future of "Amiga"

[orb85750]

Well, I realize that it may be looked down upon by some to care about the lawsuit, but I for one do care about the Hyperion/Amiga Inc battle because it may very well determine the future of Amiga.  Particularly, if Hyperion wins the suit, the question is whether they could legally contract out a hardware builder to put the term "AmigaOS" on the hardware itself.  If so, Hyperion would effectively become the new Amiga computer company.  Amiga Inc doesn't seem to be serious about releasing actual Amiga computers anyway.  

I don't think that an excellent OS alone can fully revive Amiga.  (e.g. Could you imagine an Apple revival simply based on an OS10 that people had to install on their own hardware?)

[NovaCoder]

Hyperion wins, Amiga Inc then declare bankruptcy and Hyperion buys the name for $2...it's a win-win situation.

 :lol:

[Tension]

What stage is the court case at, when can we expect to hear a verdict?

If Hyperion ever go bust, we should all chip in and buy the rights to the OS.

That would be {bleep}ing mad!!

[weirdami]

That would be {bleep}ing mad!!

Yup. If "we all" get "our" hands on it, it wouldn't be all hunkydory because then instead of 2 or 3 entities vying for control, it'd be hundreds.

[Tension]

weirdami wrote:

That would be {bleep}ing mad!!

Yup. If "we all" get "our" hands on it, it wouldn't be all hunkydory because then instead of 2 or 3 entities vying for control, it'd be hundreds.

Yes, but it really wouldn`t matter.

[orb85750]

I don't know, perhaps someone can make sense of the crap:
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August 28, 2008      118      REVISED ORDER REGARDING INITIAL DISCLOSURES, JOINT STATUS REPORT AND EARLY SETTLEMENT By stipulation of counsel, Joint Status Report due by 1/5/2009; FRCP 26f Conference Deadline is 1/5/2009; Initial Disclosure Deadline is 1/5/2009; by Judge Ricardo S. Martinez. (LW) (Entered: August 28, 2008)
September 2, 2008    119    SCHEDULING ORDER for Settlement Conference: This matter has been referred to Judge Arnold to conduct a SETTLEMENT CONFERENCE. Settlement briefs/memorandums are due in chambers on 11/13/2008 by 4:00 PM. The briefs should contain a statement of the facts, issues for trial, the law, strengths and weaknesses of the parties' case, each party's position after mediation held in this matter and a settlement figure. The briefs/memorandums should be delivered to Judge Arnold's chambers or submitted by fax to chambers at (253)882-3881. BRIEFS ARE TO BE CONFIDENTIAL AND NOT FILED WITH THE COURT OR SERVED ON OPPOSING COUNSEL. In addition to counsel, parties and representatives who have authority to settle are directed to be present in person. Settlement Conference set for 11/20/2008 at 09:00 AM in D Courtroom before Judge J. Kelley Arnold. by Judge J. Kelley Arnold. (AS) (Entered: September 2, 2008)
Docket Report Last Checked: December 1, 2008 14:58:41 PST
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which is from the URL:
http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/washington/wawdce/2:2007cv00631/143245/

-Dave

[spihunter]

At this point the whole lawsuit seems silly. Its just about money owed between the two parties. Amiga Inc dont give a damn about OS4. Their just pissed about their contract from years ago when this tech still had a small chance.

 I'm mean, who's actually going to make any money from the technology at this stage? Its a hobby OS. Unless these guys think there going to make millions from some kind of Clone-A in a joystick, I'm not sure what the motivation is.

The Sam board is great but nobody is going to buy it except Amiga diehards.

[orb85750]

I think it's clear that the lawsuit is about ownership, not just about $$.  I do think that, given the opportunity and the capital (another big question mark), Hyperion would do whatever they could to promote Amiga beyond the "hobbyist" level.  Remember when the Apple I was a hobbyist machine?  Next came the Apple II.  OK, now I'm becoming a bit far-fetched, but you get my point.  -Dave

[Tension]

spihunter wrote:
At this point the whole lawsuit seems silly. Its just about money owed between the two parties. Amiga Inc dont give a damn about OS4. Their just pissed about their contract from years ago when this tech still had a small chance.

 I'm mean, who's actually going to make any money from the technology at this stage? Its a hobby OS. Unless these guys think there going to make millions from some kind of Clone-A in a joystick, I'm not sure what the motivation is.

The Sam board is great but nobody is going to buy it except Amiga diehards.

I`m afraid you`re right.  That`s what I meant when I said it wouldn`t matter if we squabbled over the OS.  It`s pretty much over for us now.

Give it a few more years til the original Amiga hardware starts to die in big numbers, then we`ll all end up using Macs.

Shame.

[persia]

Yes, it's a hobbyist OS which is why Hyperion need to win.  Hyperion folks are hobbyists, they know they aren't going to get rich but they have some fun and earn enough to survive.  The whole market is a few thousand.  Amiga Inc can't relate to this.

[Rob]

@spihunter

Unless these guys think there going to make millions from some kind of Clone-A in a joystick, I'm not sure what the motivation is.

Considering that Amiga Inc gave Jens the brush, I don't think Amiga Inc have any plans regarding classics in a joystick.  The disclaimer in the Indivision AGA manual is somewhat amusing.

[Rob]

@Tension

Give it a few more years til the original Amiga hardware starts to die in big numbers, then we`ll all end up using Macs.

I'd rather use WinXP than buy a MAC.

[Tron2k2]

What's the disclaimer in the Indivision manual?

I don't currently own a 1200 or I'd buy one in an instant.

[persia]

Bash shell, fully Unix compatibility, a simple interface for complex inter-process communication, a well designed GUI, great image and video software.  The Mac is the 21st Century equivalent of the Amiga...

Rob wrote:
@Tension

Give it a few more years til the original Amiga hardware starts to die in big numbers, then we`ll all end up using Macs.

I'd rather use WinXP than buy a MAC.

[orb85750]

persia wrote:
Yes, it's a hobbyist OS which is why Hyperion need to win.  Hyperion folks are hobbyists, they know they aren't going to get rich but they have some fun and earn enough to survive.  The whole market is a few thousand.  Amiga Inc can't relate to this.

I disagree.  I highly doubt that Hyperion or anyone else would take on the monumental task of developing a new operating system (and being under contract to Amiga Inc) if they thought there would be recognition by only a few thousand individuals.