What If It Wasn't PPC

[itix]

@dammy

I'll disagree as there were probably a good 100,000 amiga users back then. If a quarter bought the new product and AI got $50 before any upgrades, that $1.25M may have kept AI alive and employees, like Gary P, in health insurance.

Ha! Only if a quarter of Amiga users bought new Amiga in 1993...

[dammy]

Ha! Only if a quarter of Amiga users bought new Amiga in 1993...

By the time line I'm speaking of, I would have bought a new Amiga from AI.  I held out as long as I could before going x86.  Especially if the plan going forth was calling on devices about the same price but jumping in capabilities year after year.  Guess I should have jumped on Amithlon when I had the chance.

Dammy

[Gebrochen]

@ Dammy:

Honestly, we all like you being on here with your lovely viewpoints.

But, er, whyis it then, that my 3700+ amd 64 Athlon with 1.5 Ghz ram cannot burn something on XP while trying to run two games (simple games) at once and winamp??

But yet, my SAM440EP PPC, only 667 Mhz, with 512MB RAM can run two games, amiga amp, and complete burning a cd??

I tried it several times on my XP machine, and everytime it would stop burning, fuk up my cd, and give me an error saying too much resources??

WELL, HALLO,

It doesnt seem to be a problem on my tiny SAM440EP running AMiga os4.1 to do it, so why dammy, why??

TALK TO ME!! PLease put me out of the misery of not knowing why XP is so Shet, and any windows before it so shet type of OS that cant, even to date, multi task simultaneously, as I knew it back then from amiga OS1.3 and now OS4.1?

Thank you for your time and any patience you show in your answer to this.

I say, let them stay on PPC, maybe the PPC architecture has something that we have all been overlooking??

EDIT:
If anything, let them upgrade to ARM, I reckon ARM may be the future for an Amiga OS, when people may want a simultaneously multitasking desktop computer, and hardware architecture that doesnt slow down an OS.

Then again, it may just be the way the other os's have been programmed.

BTW, I asked some friends to do the same on their computers running Windows, to try and burn something while doing other things that require cpu power, they were all unsuccessful in completing their burning of their cd's.



Just my 2 cents worth.

Long Live our community.

I heard, they have sold 1300 + sam boards to Amiga users in the first batch, can anyone confirm this??

Kick Arse guys, keep em coming, and please upgrade the PPC cpu's to 2.5Ghz next year.

[persia]

I'm not a PC person, I'm a Mac person, but I've never had problems burning a DVD and doing other things on OS X, surfing the web, playing a game, never really thought about it, just did it.  The other day I was cleaning some audio using iZotope, burn a PAL HD video using toast, surf the web with Safari, have Grand Theft Auto running in VMWare and Civilisation III on the Mac side.  I could switch between them seamlessly.

The real advantage of x86 is that it is the architecture of the PC, all the computer development that has gone into it is available to you.  That's a strong advantage, that's why Apple switched, the best, most powerful hardware is there, always.

Yes it's easier for Amiga to stick with the IBM chips, but the cost is over priced under powered machinery like the SAM.  That was a major issue for Apple because it wanted to be a player in the computer world.  It may not be an issue for a niche machine like the Amiga.

[terminator4]

"I say, let them stay on PPC, maybe the PPC architecture has something that we have all been overlooking??"

This isn't an issue/option (I honestly can't understand the yapping on this here).  OS4 is done on PPC.  Took 6 years to get there, and I doubt all developers got paid for it (amiga platform has always been a labor of love).  To leave PPC is not an option, regardless of technology today, unless you are rich enough to hire developers full-time.  And even then, why throw away all the effort that went into it.  And I'm talking about someone rich enough with more than $100 million to invest in a company & business plan to sustain the development...  and at the end is there room for another platform? (Apple has done well with their gadgets, not so much with their desktops)  :roll:

[Dandy]

dammy wrote:

...
Could we be busy trying to purchase a new generation aPhone this Xmas?

No.
I'm interested in computers - not in phonietoys.
After all this is (meant to be) an computer forum - not and phonietoys advertising forum...

[Dandy]

taunusand wrote:

BillE wrote:

I wouldn't buy a mobile phone no matter who the manufacturer was. I don't want one and I don't need one.

Who can live without a phone theese days? :-?

I can...

Mine sits switched off in my pocket all the time.

It only gets switched on when I really urgently need to make a phone call when I'm not at home - once or twice within three months...

And it's one of those you can only phone with - no SMS, no camera, no MP3, no internet - none of all that crap...

Neither do I need, nor do I want an "eierlegende Wollmilchsau" (egg laying wool milk pig)...

[AeroMan]

Dandy wrote:

taunusand wrote:

BillE wrote:

I wouldn't buy a mobile phone no matter who the manufacturer was. I don't want one and I don't need one.

Who can live without a phone theese days? :-?

I can...

Mine sits switched off in my pocket all the time.

So, I believe we are three. Anyone else?

[dammy]

by Gebrochen on 2008/11/30 22:23:57

Honestly, we all like you being on here with your lovely viewpoints.

I'm sure.

But, er, whyis it then, that my 3700+ amd 64 Athlon with 1.5 Ghz ram cannot burn something on XP while trying to run two games (simple games) at once and winamp??

Ever thought it could be it's a issue with your OS and not the hardware?

Dammy

[billt]

Could we be busy trying to purchase a new generation aPhone this Xmas?

Probably wouldn't matter to me. None of the really cool phones work with my service provider's network, but I'm stuck with their crappy selection because that's what works at all where I go. Not well a lot of the time, but it does at least work at all. You could have a shiny new Aphone on a shelf somewhere that wouldn't likely be one bit useful to me.

[dammy]

by terminator4 on 2008/12/1 2:56:33

This isn't an issue/option (I honestly can't understand the yapping on this here). OS4 is done on PPC. Took 6 years to get there, and I doubt all developers got paid for it (amiga platform has always been a labor of love). To leave PPC is not an option, regardless of technology today, unless you are rich enough to hire developers full-time. And even then, why throw away all the effort that went into it. And I'm talking about someone rich enough with more than $100 million to invest in a company & business plan to sustain the development... and at the end is there room for another platform? (Apple has done well with their gadgets, not so much with their desktops)

OS4 is one of many Amiga-like OSs out there.  I'm not expecting the final out come of AI vs Hyperion to come out well for OS4 TBH.  Had someone smacked Sheep Lord over the head numerous times with a smart stick, he might have seen the light that PPC was going to be a dead end for desktops. Thankfully, there are several Amiga-like OSs out there that can be ported, regardless what the jury decides on.

As for Apple, I haven't seen any negative impact since they went Intel on their sales numbers, have you?

Dammy

[dammy]

by Dandy on 2008/12/1 3:09:08

No.
I'm interested in computers - not in phonietoys.
After all this is (meant to be) an computer forum - not and phonietoys advertising forum...

I can see your in a bad mood, but I'll reply anyways.  As we see laptop sales now ahead of desktop sales.  As netbooks are gaining in popularity, I think we will see desktop sales continue to decline.  If the OS will run on a netbook, why not a tablet.  If it'll run on a tablet, why not a pda/cell hybred like the iPhone and Storm.  I doubt it will be much longer before we see a docking station for those high level phones to turn them into a quick desktop.  Think about that one for awhile.

I think AI had the right idea about going mobile, they just planned and executed it in a completely incompetent way.

Dammy

[dammy]

by AeroMan on 2008/12/1 10:24:23

So, I believe we are three. Anyone else?

Not me, mine is on 24/7.   If it stopped working, I would have a new one up and running in hours.

Dammy

[dammy]

by billt on 2008/12/1 10:28:19

Probably wouldn't matter to me. None of the really cool phones work with my service provider's network, but I'm stuck with their crappy selection because that's what works at all where I go. Not well a lot of the time, but it does at least work at all. You could have a shiny new Aphone on a shelf somewhere that wouldn't likely be one bit useful to me.

Gotta ask, which provider?

Dammy

[taunusand]

Dandy wrote:

taunusand wrote:

BillE wrote:

I wouldn't buy a mobile phone no matter who the manufacturer was. I don't want one and I don't need one.

Who can live without a phone theese days? :-?

I can...

Mine sits switched off in my pocket all the time.

It only gets switched on when I really urgently need to make a phone call when I'm not at home - once or twice within three months...

And it's one of those you can only phone with - no SMS, no camera, no MP3, no internet - none of all that crap...

Neither do I need, nor do I want an "eierlegende Wollmilchsau" (egg laying wool milk pig)...

Well.. I'm surpriced!
My friends and family would think something was wrong if they could not call me :-)

But, just to support you a little.. When I'm at work my phone is turned of and if I have "too much to do" at home, I can leave it a place where I can't hear it. Afterwards I can deside IF there is someone that I want to call back ;-)

My phone has "all that crap" you mention, sms & camera is nice, but I have no use for playing mp3's and surfing the net, my miggy does that :lol:

[Manu]

All I can say is read my sig. A wise mans words and you
don't need to be a geniuos to comprehend that.