IBrowse 2.4 68k and Paypal

[Angus]

Hi all, I'm using the latest 68k version of IBrowse (2.4?) and I had problems on the Paypal site last night.

Call me old fashined but I prefer to pay for Ebay items on the Paypal site itself, its never been a problem before. Last night, on the final page where you click on the button to send payment, after clicking on the button, I got a requester saying something like: "requested document is empty" or words to that effect. I tried several times, with and without Java, but always the same. I then crowbarred my son off his pc and tried it there, and it worked first time. I hope Paypal is not an Amiga unfriendly site now. It worked okay for me a few days ago.

Any thoughts?

[Caius]

It doesn't have anything to do with being Amiga unfriendly. IBrowse is an old and outdated browser, even v2.4. You can't really expect it to work with newest versions of Javascript. Personally I'd never risk using IBrowse for things like Paypal. Unless IBrowse 3.0 is eventually released, I think you just have to come to terms with the fact that using something modern like Firefox is the way to go for a large part of your web surfing needs.

[quarkx]

Personally, I like the idea that Ibrowse dose not support javascript. Javascript is ruining the whole browsing experience, because only a very select few web designers can program it properly. Just about everyone and their dog is creating crappy looking websites that don't work very well, and leave a lot of holes open to exploit. All the javascript is why I refuse to go up to facebook anymore. I really thank FF for putting in a script blocker add on. If the website demands I drop the script blocker, I usually won't go there anymore. 99% of the time the scrips are only there to through ads in your face anyways.
Javascript should be outlawed.

[recidivist]

quarkx

 I'm with you;I really haven't found the newer browsers an improvement.All they seem to do is allow more unwanted ads:popup,pop-unders,little video windows of ads....
 Netscape 3.0 with a few plug-ins did all I expected.All the updates since then have been FORCED upon me by websites that refused connections even when it is only text and still pictures.

 I remember a time when park benches,the city bus,and everything else weren't plastered with obnoxious adverts,and people still bought lots of goods.
 Lady Bird Johnson had one thing right with her anti-billboard campaign.

[Caius]

quarkx wrote:
Personally, I like the idea that Ibrowse dose not support javascript.

IBrowse does support Javascript.

[quarkx]

opps, should have said LATEST version, (like you did). Its a fact that Javascript is speeding up the progress to make the web a cesspool, or toxic waist dump. I am all for making a buck, but to show it in someones face with pop-ups, mouse-overs, you name it, it's just getting sick, I might have to go back to Netscape 1.0 just to start reading stuff again.
-Maybe its my age showing, but I pay good money to surf the net at high speed, and last I heard, NONE of that adverising revenue EVER paid to keep the rates down. They might keep some sites up, but I would rater donate to a site, then have to be forced to view ads. If the site has too much javascript ads, I will never hit them again.

[Angus]

Caius wrote:
It doesn't have anything to do with being Amiga unfriendly. IBrowse is an old and outdated browser, even v2.4. You can't really expect it to work with newest versions of Javascript. Personally I'd never risk using IBrowse for things like Paypal. Unless IBrowse 3.0 is eventually released, I think you just have to come to terms with the fact that using something modern like Firefox is the way to go for a large part of your web surfing needs.

It was "Amiga friendly2 a week ago.

And thanks, but I'm genuinely not interested in what browser anybody thinks I should or shouldn't be using.

So, has anyone experienced this problem with IBrowse 2.4 on the Paypal site, or is it working fine?

[lionstorm]

I bought something from ebay last week and paid with paypal without any problem (on my amigaone, but IBrowse is still 68k anyway).

[mgerics]

Never used paypal via Amiga as I recall.

I just logged in with IBrowse 2.4, WINUAE (AmigaSYS4 to be exact!)

It let me in and showed me my last 2 transactions.

In Preferences, I have the defaults set to load all images, allow javascript yes, frames support yes. (Not via the menu strip pull downs, but within Preferences->Settings)
I had to set it up this way to get OutlookWebAccess to work to access an MS Exchange server.

[Caius]

Angus wrote:

Caius wrote:
It doesn't have anything to do with being Amiga unfriendly. IBrowse is an old and outdated browser, even v2.4. You can't really expect it to work with newest versions of Javascript. Personally I'd never risk using IBrowse for things like Paypal. Unless IBrowse 3.0 is eventually released, I think you just have to come to terms with the fact that using something modern like Firefox is the way to go for a large part of your web surfing needs.

It was "Amiga friendly2 a week ago.

And thanks, but I'm genuinely not interested in what browser anybody thinks I should or shouldn't be using.

So, has anyone experienced this problem with IBrowse 2.4 on the Paypal site, or is it working fine?

I merely voiced my opinion, which is only to be expected when you post on a public forum. Nobody is trying to force you to change your browser.

If you could pay with IBrowse last week but not now, it stands to reason that either Paypal has changed something in their system lately, or that it was merely a temporary glitch of some form.

I like IBrowse, I always use it when browsing from my Amiga. The reason I don't use it for any payments is that I don't want to take any risks when it comes to money. Simple as that. Internet technology is moving forward. IBrowse, however, is apparently not.

[Jose]

Maybe my memory's failing me but Javascript support on IBrowse was up to date on the latest version.

[Jose]

Here it is:
"- The JavaScript engine has been improved yet further providing support for more event handlers, and improved DOM support, along with some significant speed increases in certain areas. It now supports the complete JavaScript 1.6 extension, as found in Firefox 2.0, along with the majority of JavaScript 1.5 and the revision 3 of the ECMAScript (ECMA-262) specification
- ...
"

[Caius]

Jose wrote:
Here it is:
"- The JavaScript engine has been improved yet further providing support for more event handlers, and improved DOM support, along with some significant speed increases in certain areas. It now supports the complete JavaScript 1.6 extension, as found in Firefox 2.0, along with the majority of JavaScript 1.5 and the revision 3 of the ECMAScript (ECMA-262) specification
- ...
"

The latest release of JavaScript is 1.8, so IBrowse is not up to date.

[wurzel]

Caius wrote:

I like IBrowse, I always use it when browsing from my Amiga. The reason I don't use it for any payments is that I don't want to take any risks when it comes to money. Simple as that. Internet technology is moving forward. IBrowse, however, is apparently not.

Actually, I prefer to use my miggy & IBrowse when dealing with money. It works with my bank, & Paypal, easily and provides 128bit security, and no chance of keyloggers cracking my passwords   :-D

[Angus]

lionstorm wrote:
I bought something from ebay last week and paid with paypal without any problem (on my amigaone, but IBrowse is still 68k anyway).

Thanks Lionstorm, may I ask if you paid actually on the Paypal site, or if you paid directly on Ebay?

Cheers.