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Competition Pro USB sucks - could a new driver help?
« on: November 24, 2008, 10:34:57 AM »
Hi,

I have bought two Competition Pro USB but when I tried them out, I was very disappointed: their reaction time is way too slow - playing any action/sports games (e.g. Kick Off 2) is a pain because the Joystick just takes too long to react.

I have googled a bit about the Joystick and have found out that this is a common problem. There seems to be no help, or is there?

How about writing a specialized USB driver for the Competition Pro? Has anyone got the knowledge? Would it be possible e.g. to do polling more often to get faster reaction times?

Just an idea...

Cheers, Ralph
 

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Re: Competition Pro USB sucks - could a new driver help?
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2008, 11:24:59 AM »
On which machine / usb stack name / configuration please...

Arch Windows XP :-)
Check sometings in "Control Panel" / "Game"...

USB is intended to scan triggers each 10 milliseconds.
I hope you have not plugged this device via an external hub.
 

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Re: Competition Pro USB sucks - could a new driver help?
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2008, 11:31:19 AM »
no problem here

// euae under mos2.1 peg2 with poseidon stack
 

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Re: Competition Pro USB sucks - could a new driver help?
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2008, 11:55:53 AM »
I am using it under Windows XP (tried it on several XP machines to be honest). There is a slight lag in reaction time which is slight but it is there and when you notice it, it's totally annoying. E.g. I cannot beat the computer in Kick Off 2 anymore, because I keep losing balls which I never lose when I switch to play on my old, real Amiga...
 

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Re: Competition Pro USB sucks - could a new driver help?
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2008, 11:56:58 AM »
Maybe the stick runs better on non-Windows machines? Have you tried the same game using a real joystick (e.g. on your old Amiga) and really spotted no difference?
 

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Re: Competition Pro USB sucks - could a new driver help?
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2008, 11:58:57 AM »
So what I really wonder is whether is would be possible to write a new driver for Windows which would cure the lag problem for the Competition Pro USB. Probably the fault is in the hardware and writing a new driver would not help, but I don't know.

Anyhow, the slight delay in reaction time is so annoying, it makes me crazy - I would love it so much to be able to play the old games as they are supposed to be...
 

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Re: Competition Pro USB sucks - could a new driver help?
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2008, 12:20:28 PM »
I have a blue Comp USB too and I was very disappointed by it, it plays like a metal rod set in cement. I can't really remember if it was 'slow' though.

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Re: Competition Pro USB sucks - could a new driver help?
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2008, 01:52:41 PM »
The USB version of these joysticks are total garbage, completely useless. Throw them in the trash and don't look back. You can find the same complaints here on Amiga.org and other Amiga sites like AWN.
Someone has to state the obvious and that someone is me!
 

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Re: Competition Pro USB sucks - could a new driver help?
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2008, 02:59:53 PM »
What alternatives are there? I searched the web and found only a discontinued alternative (Stelladaptor) and Keyrah where old Joysticks can be plugged in and their input is converted into cursor movements (which then could be mapped to the WinUAE joysticks again).

Do you know of any other alternatives (except DIY)?

Which of the alternatives is best?
 

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Re: Competition Pro USB sucks - could a new driver help?
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2008, 03:21:54 PM »
The Stelladaptor is still available at the AtariAge website.  You can go directly to the Stelladaptor from this link.

Current price is $39.95.  I've been using this with my Window and Mac computers without any problems.  I was about to get the USB version but perhaps I'll get a spare Stelladaptor instead!
 

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Re: Competition Pro USB sucks - could a new driver help?
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2008, 03:31:03 PM »
Here's a DIY-kit, I don't know if extra firebuttons are supported: Clickety-click.

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Re: Competition Pro USB sucks - could a new driver help?
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2008, 03:38:12 PM »
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The USB version of these joysticks are total garbage, completely useless. Throw them in the trash and don't look back. You can find the same complaints here on Amiga.org and other Amiga sites like AWN.


Agree 100%. I was very disappointed when I bought it. And not only the reactionspeed, but the sucker broke down also and I didnt even use it much or in any intensive game. The stick just jumped up.. I managed to fix it but it happened again some times after. The insides are as cheap as it gets. I threw the sh1t away.
 

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Re: Competition Pro USB sucks - could a new driver help?
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2008, 03:46:54 PM »
Those Competition Pro USB is worthless for lefthanded people as well. Why isn't there a setting to switch buttons?

I'll guess i have to switch the wires in the joystick :/
 

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Re: Competition Pro USB sucks - could a new driver help?
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2008, 04:25:24 PM »
I built a homemade Amiga 9pin to USB adapter with the help of a few people over at EAB. Very easy to do and works a treat in WinUAE using Vista.

Here is a thread I made with a few pictures.

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=479779#post479779

The adapter works very well, supporting 2 independant fire buttons and could do autofire but I chose not to due to laziness.

No lag with this crude but very effective adapter.
 

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Re: Competition Pro USB sucks - could a new driver help?
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2008, 04:27:29 PM »
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I have a blue Comp USB too and I was very disappointed by it, it plays like a metal rod set in cement. I can't really remember if it was 'slow' though.


I remember that stupid thing. I couldn't even give it away.