trident subway freeze up

[TheGoose]

Hey folks,

I got some trouble with my subway and worked out some possible issues and I'm still stuck. I post this in software because I don't have any evidence for a hardware problem. Having said that, maybe I'm wrong?

My machine seems to startup and see the subway fine, I start it in Trident. Reports a bunch of good things. Even works with a 2gig thumb drive for a little bit. Then, after a few minutes, things start to freeze up. Screen does not redraw. Although mouse works and there are no crashes.

If I do not start Trident/subway the machine works fine. I thought it was maybe power, but I have a 400W ATX PSU in the tower. This all lead me to think it was some software problem?

 :idea:

The machine:

A1200T
PPC Blizzard 603e+ (160MB)
B-Vision
Leyrah keyboard adapter
Harddrive ( on IDE )
CDROM ( On IDE )
Mediator (no cards attached - software installed)
Cocolino

Software:

AmigaOS 3.9
Poseidon v3

I searched and found some threads, but not like this...

Thanks for ideas













 

[MozzerFan]

What version of poseidon are you using?
The latest version of poseidon is 4.2

[TheGoose]

Not in front of the machine right now, but I believe it was version 3.3 ?

I need to check tonight - confirm.

thanks

[jrfjunior]

I am using last version of Subway (I picked in Chris site). Not using the version that comes with card because is an old version. Do not freezed any time.

[TheGoose]

Yeah, I downloaded and installed V4 from Chris's site last night. All went fine but, this strange problem was still happening. A pseudo-freeze up.

I have pulled out WB startup programs and commented out a few things from my startup-sequence. I only have Miami and the cdrom software loading up.

Wonder if it could be the cdrom software. I use ASIMware stuff. Now that I say this, I remember every time the freeze occurs the cdrom icon on the desktop would drop off (had a disc in the bay). Hmmm.

Yes, it seems like the OS is running, but then HD and cdrom access drops off.

 

[MozzerFan]

I suppose you could easily check if it's the CDROM software by moving the CD0 mountfile from devs:dosdrivers to storage/dosdrivers.

If your subway is still behaving weird, I strongly suggest you contact either Michael Boehmer of E3B or Chris Hodges.

Never had this kind of problem with my subway.

[TheGoose]

Ok, got some much better results after undoing the CDROM software. Pulled out the driver from /devs and commented out a couple lines from the startup-sequence, problems seemed to disappear!

Ran a bunch of programs for a good long time, trying to make it freeze but it held together (Trident was started during this).

So if I'm right, here's the suspect CDROM software I'm using:

AsimCDFS V3
asim_atapi.device

I'm going to do a few more tests, with some devices attached to the subway...

wish me luck

[MozzerFan]

Good luck !!!  :-)

[MozzerFan]

BTW you can try to see if it works ok with CacheCDFS.
CacheCDFS comes with Os3.9. Copy the CD0 mountfile from the Os3.9 CD to DEVS:dosdrivers en enter the correct device and unit number in the mountfile with a texteditor.
If the same problems occur with CacheCDFS, it might be a hardware problem after all (faulty PSU?).

[TheGoose]

Thanks MozzerFan,

I'm gonna try your CacheCDFS idea tonight. I still want to use a cdrom drive...

 :-)

[TheGoose]

How bizarre, it works!

I changed out the cdrom software and got everything going. I still got some strange issues with the cdrom dropping off and then, coming back online. But no freeze or redraw issue. I'm still like WTF is going on? But after it did that it settled down and didn't do it again. Computer is so god damn old it's suffering from alzheimer's. Whadda you mean ceeedee rom !!!?? Who da hell is ceeddee. Go away.    

Well, I got cdrom and usb anywho. So cheers to AmigaOS for getting it right, and making a more robust driver and CD file system.

Thanks MozzerFan for the idea.

[MozzerFan]

Glad it works !!!  :-)

Actually CacheCDFS was created by the guys from IDEfix97.
The people who made OS3.5 and OS3.9 possible decided to include it with 3.5 and 3.9 after they pretty much messed up with the CDROM filesystem from 3.1.