New AmigaOS???

[persia]

To anyone who thinks there will be "millions" of Amiga users...

I want what you're smoking!

[niklasni1]

Atheist wrote:
Java is NOT easy!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Unless they've rewritten the syntax from scratch!)

It's fine if you're not completely thick.

So I see why you might have a problem.

Bloodline - didn't know you were involved in this Anubis stuff. Is there a mailing list for updates? It sounds rather exciting.

[bloodline]

niklasni1 wrote:

Atheist wrote:
Java is NOT easy!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Unless they've rewritten the syntax from scratch!)

It's fine if you're not completely thick.

So I see why you might have a problem.

:lol:

Bloodline - didn't know you were involved in this Anubis stuff. Is there a mailing list for updates? It sounds rather exciting.

Wander over to sourceforge and look for the "ARIX" project... from there you can sign up to the Dev list.

At the moment we are really waiting on the first proposals from Hogne and Michal... but already we are debating the various component designs, and how best to ensure an Amiga familiar experience.

[niklasni1]

I are a lurker on ewer lists.

 :madashell:

[bloodline]

niklasni1 wrote:
I are a lurker on ewer lists.

 :madashell:

hahaha

[Jupp3]

Atheist wrote:
Java is NOT easy!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Unless they've rewritten the syntax from scratch!)

It's fine if you're not completely thick.

He is...

EVERY programming langue that doesn't have 100% similar syntax as AmosPro is too hard (for him).

f.ex. if you have to write:
printf("Hello!\n");
("problematic" parts highlighted)
instead of:
print"Hello!"

that won't do.

Luckily, it's only him.

So I see why you might have a problem.

I can't see either, but I have just learned to accept it.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

Atheist wrote:
Java is NOT easy!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Unless they've rewritten the syntax from scratch!)

A language is not easy when it has a lot of exceptions in it's design, and require a lot of workarounds. Which isn't the case with Java.
Some libraries in Java are, however, a pain in the *rse I have to admit.

[the_leander]

takemehomegrandma wrote:

bloodline wrote:

Atheist wrote:

bloodline wrote:

I fail to see what you are frustrated about... You are the one who stated that an A1200 with a dialup modem and a CPU slower than my mobile phone would sell millions... That sort of thing is strange thinking!

bloodline, what was I thinking? You've convinced me, Amiga 1200s are useless.

To the first moderator that reads this, please close down my account.

While I do feel guilty for scaring Atheist with logic and reason... do I win a prize for getting rid of him?

Absolutely!

This first pint is from me:

 :pint:

And a second from me sir!

Getting back to your point, and the partial rebuttal regarding inputting. The alternative to an iPhone is an EeePC with a 3G dongle.

And they are very robust into the bargain (I've dropped mine from table height a number of times and the thing just keeps on working...

Am told that it is also possible to run OSX on one of these things... Though tbh I wouldn't want to try.

But right now I have my eye on one of these as a replacement for my Eee...

[Zorro]

Welcome Anubi OS !

I think this is a wonderful idea (hoping AROS will advance anyway...). Congratulations to all the Devs involved.

Hoping the Amiga Spirit will be strongly in there and we can see something more soon... maybe in two more weeks ? :-)

I will check out the news...

[niklasni1]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
A language is not easy when it has a lot of exceptions in it's design, and require a lot of workarounds. Which isn't the case with Java.
Some libraries in Java are, however, a pain in the *rse I have to admit.

There are plenty of reasons to dislike Java (I'm not particularly keen on it, TBH), but knowing our Atheist's level of technical knowledge (which one might say gives a whole new meaning to the word 'grassroots'..) I can't really take his statement seriously.

If he was an accomplished LISP/Scheme-er, or MLer, or similar, who complained that Java was not easy to write 'correct' software in, he might have a point.

If he was fluent in FORTH, or a similar reductionist language, he might be able to make the claim that Java isn't easy to implement a compiler for.

If he was knowledgable about assembly language or finely tuned C code, he might point out that Java is not easy to write efficient software in.

He's neither of those, obviously.

[Quixote]

;-) Gotta jump in on the cell phone arguement; I am surfing Amiga.org via my cell phone on the way home from work this morning, and posting this now via cell phone.

I can send e-mail, download files, and so on.  Ironically, I even have an Amiga emulator installed, MyUAE.

Today's cell phone hardware has left classic Amiga hardware in the dust of ages past, and it's a shame.  What I really want is to see my cell phone available in an AmigaOS version, instead of just Windows® Mobile and Palm® Versions.

Bill McEwen mentioned a while back that Amiga, Inc. had missed a deal that would have put AmigaOS on a device that "would sell in greater numbers than the iPhone," if I recall his wording correctly.  Meanwhile, Palm has released two newer versions of my Tréo: the Tréo 800 and the Tréo Pro.  Both are availble only in Windows versions because they feature both bluetooth and Wi-Fi, and an inherit limitation of Palm OS is that it cannot manage three radios at once.  Soooo, we must wait until a new version of Palm OS is created from scratch while retaining existing Palm API's.

:-? Could this have been the deal that Amiga missed?

[persia]

Bill had just returned from Columbia that day I think.  Nobody turns down a deal that has numbers bigger than iPod over something as small as the dispute between Hyperion and Amiga.  

Here's what I think happened.  CECT was out looking for an OS for their iPhone clones and approached many companies, Amiga Inc included.  Amiga Inc sat on it and  ATI’s NUCLEUS+ for RTOS was chosen.  Accelerated Technology (a division of Mentor Graphics) didn't become rich and neither would have Amiga Inc...

[Quixote]

:-( A sensible company isn't going to partner with another in a big way when ownership of the other's assets is contested.

Besides, Amiga, Inc. cannot work with source code that they do not physically posses.  So, until the dispute is settled, A, inc. cannot produce anything you or I could purchase.  That's an awkward situation for any company to be in.

[persia]

My point is there was a settling point, it involved some cash and some concession on AmigaDos ownership on Amiga Inc.'s part.  Both concessions were small potatoes if Bill's letter is correct.  We've all known Hyperion's terms for years.  Agreeing to those terms would have, if Bill is correct, brought AmigaDos to millions of iPhone/iPod clones.  It's not a hard business decision, 100% of nothing versus 95% of millions...

But that's why I think it was CECT, the customer was looking for an OS on the cheap, it would have been in hundreds of thousands of devices like the 168, i9 etc, but the return would have been very small...

[dammy]

My point is there was a settling point, it involved some cash and some concession on AmigaDos ownership on Amiga Inc.'s part. Both concessions were small potatoes if Bill's letter is correct. We've all known Hyperion's terms for years. Agreeing to those terms would have, if Bill is correct, brought AmigaDos to millions of iPhone/iPod clones. It's not a hard business decision, 100% of nothing versus 95% of millions...

But that's why I think it was CECT, the customer was looking for an OS on the cheap, it would have been in hundreds of thousands of devices like the 168, i9 etc, but the return would have been very small...

Problems is for AI, it (content delivery/display system) can (and will be) replaced by Open Source.  Even M$ is starting initial talks about using open source beyond the next IE series.  It's all about content that will make the $.

Dammy

[amigadave]

@the_leander,

That Gdium sub-notebook looks sweet!