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Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
« on: November 15, 2008, 11:45:31 PM »
It appears that almost nothing works with workbench 1.3.  I have 3.1.  But I can't get it onto the machine.  I can't write amiga floppies.  So I copied the files to a usb thumb drive.  Deneb won't install it's virtual drive so I can't install it.  (it's in rescue mode and the boot menu doesn't look like it should)  So the thumb drive doesn't work.  So I burned a CD.  But buddha refuses to mount the drive.  No network.  No usb.  No CDs.  Maybe I can type in all the bytes?

Any ideas on how I can get 3.1 roms into the buddha's flash rom and boot from 3.1 so everything starts working?

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Re: Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2008, 12:33:42 AM »
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It appears that almost nothing works with workbench 1.3.  I have 3.1.  But I can't get it onto the machine.  I can't write amiga floppies.  So I copied the files to a usb thumb drive.  Deneb won't install it's virtual drive so I can't install it.  (it's in rescue mode and the boot menu doesn't look like it should)  So the thumb drive doesn't work.  So I burned a CD.  But buddha refuses to mount the drive.  No network.  No usb.  No CDs.  Maybe I can type in all the bytes?

Any ideas on how I can get 3.1 roms into the buddha's flash rom and boot from 3.1 so everything starts working?

brian


Plug your Amiga's HD into a PC, do all the set up in UAE and then put the drive back in the Amiga.

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Re: Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2008, 01:19:55 AM »
That would require that I have a working UAE.  ;-)  64-bit ubuntu isn't playing nice.  

As it turns out, I happened to have 3.1 roms in my 600.  I put them in the 2000 which made the deneb happy.  But nothing will work without a matching 3.1 os.

My next angle will be to attach a floppy drive to my ubuntu box and try cross-dos.  I used to have a usb floppy drive, but I can't find it.

Can anyone tell me why the buddha is happy to boot off of an ide disk, but refuses to acknowledge an ide cdrom?

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Re: Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2008, 01:33:20 AM »
Perhaps using an old rs-232 null-modem cable (possibly to dbn-9 if other end is a pc), and zmodem .lha files accross? you would need a terminal proggy on the Amiga, though. I would use crossdoss to get that accross, and then use a null-modem to get the drivers for a more convenient transfer method (usb thumbdrive) over, then use that for the rest of whatever you need transferred.
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Re: Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2008, 01:33:27 AM »
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Can anyone tell me why the buddha is happy to boot off of an ide disk, but refuses to acknowledge an ide cdrom?

brian


ATAPI

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Re: Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2008, 01:43:10 AM »
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Can anyone tell me why the buddha is happy to boot off of an ide disk, but refuses to acknowledge an ide cdrom?

brian


ATAPI


Can you elaborate?

By the way, did anyone know that XP can't format 720k floppy disks?   :roll:

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Re: Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2008, 02:02:31 AM »
The egg.

Although this won't help you with the problem you are having with the Amiga, it does answer your initial question.  :-D

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Re: Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2008, 02:19:58 AM »
Could someone post what their buddha_atapi.device entry looks like in devs:mountlist?  thanks.

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Re: Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2008, 02:23:39 AM »
if you had a pet chicken and a pet egg, neither would come when called, but the chicken might randomly end up in your vicinity at some point. the egg wouldn't stand a chance unless you were at the bottom of a hill, and then it would win every time.
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Re: Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2008, 02:38:59 AM »
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Could someone post what their buddha_atapi.device entry looks like in devs:mountlist? thanks.


Dont have a buddha myself,but if your CDROM is connected as a slave behind your harddisk, then the following should be in the CD0 mountlist:

device="buddha_atapi.device"
unit=1

If it still doesn't mount the device, there's a utility that comes with the buddha install disk called FindDevice.
Try to run that, to see if it finds the CDROM.
 

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Re: Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2008, 02:42:23 AM »
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By the way, did anyone know that XP can't format 720k floppy disks?


This was already discussed on amiga.org. See this thread.
 

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Re: Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2008, 02:44:08 AM »
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Could someone post what their buddha_atapi.device entry looks like in devs:mountlist? thanks.


Dont have a buddha myself,but if your CDROM is connected as a slave behind your harddisk, then the following should be in the CD0 mountlist:

device="buddha_atapi.device"
unit=1

If it still doesn't mount the device, there's a utility that comes with the buddha install disk called FindDevice.
Try to run that, to see if it finds the CDROM.


ok, I added the mountlist entry.  The cdrom is master, the hard drive is slave.  So I told it unit=0.

mount cd0: seems to work with no errors

dir cd0: produces:

count not get information for cd0:

FindDevice recognizes the drive.  I click "use", but it doesn't seem to do anything.

any ideas?

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Re: Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2008, 02:49:51 AM »
Does it act like this with all CDs you try to load?

Maybe you can try to set your harddisk as master and CDROM as a slave and edit the CD0 mountfile (change unit number to 1) and see if this helps.

Edit: Or you could try to set it up as a master on the second IDE port and change the unit number to 2 in the CD0 mountfile.
 

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Re: Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2008, 03:21:00 AM »
never mind (must get my glasses again)
 

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Re: Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2008, 04:37:51 AM »
BTW did you install the buddha software before or after you added the cdrom to your system. If you installed it before adding the cdrom, the mountfile may not have been installed correctly. In that case, try to reinstall the software.