I need some help......

[maxplunder]

I have an Amiga 2000HD with a A2091 controller.  Rom ver1.3 and WB 1.3.3 34.34.  The current HD is Quantum LPS 52S (SCSI) and I want to add a Seagate ST12400N (SCSI).  I've got the Quantum set as ID 5 and the Seagate ID6 and terminating at the seagate.  Every time I start the machine it boots fine.  I go into HDToolbox from the 2091 disk, both HD's are found.  It tells me I need to save the changes. (more than one HD found I guess??) when I reboot It wants me to insert a volume called Libs even before it shows the CLI.
Please Help

[Framiga]

@maxplunder

Wich ID has the controller?

Try to change your Seagate ID6 to another IDnumber.

Ciao

[maxplunder]

what do yo mean?

[JimS]

Try changing the Seagate's address to 4. I believe that the 2091 scans from the higher address down.  This way it will see the bootable Quantum first.  One other thing to be aware of... I've seen some strange stuff with the 2091 and some drives, mainly the newer ones.. (newer compared to the 2091! ) They appear to partition & format correctly, but disappear on a reboot... I suspect this is due to the old firmware on the 2091. Too bad... cuz I've got a couple of Seagates that do exactly that...
(I just looked - they are ST12400N's!)

[maxplunder]

to JimS

Is there anyway to get the ST12400N to work on here??

[huronking]

I would see if the newer drive will work by itself.

Since that LPS52S is almost 14 years old (my first
52 didnt last a year, but they replaced it) I would
start migrating off of it anyway.

Mike

[JimS]

maxplunder wrote:
Is there anyway to get the ST12400N to work on here??

That I couldn't say for sure...  I understand there is a firmware upgrade to the 2091 card.... Rev 7.0.  There is also an upgrade to the Western Digital SCSI chip on the 2091 card. Either of these might work... but I don't know for sure.  I found a 1 gig drive that worked, so I just gave up on the ST12400Ns.

It's also possible that a different controller card would work.  Maybe someone using those drives will jump in and say what controller they are using.

[Framiga]

@maxplunder

Begin to change the Seagate ID to 4 as JimS said.

Where the boot partition is installed?

On the Seagate?

Ciao

[maxplunder]

Framiga wrote:
@maxplunder

Begin to change the Seagate ID to 4 as JimS said.

Where the boot partition is installed?

On the Seagate?

Ciao

The Quantum is bootable.  I changed the Seagate ID to 4 and got the Insert Workbench Disk Screen when I rebooted.

[Framiga]

@maxplunder

so put the Seagate to 5 and the old one to 4. (or 6)

Ciao

-edit- remember that with Amiga SCSI controllers, the rule is that . . .there aren't rules :-)

[maxplunder]

I changed the ID back to 6 and now the seagate is not showing up in the toolbox at all,  changed it back to 4 and still not showing up.  Its still booting off of the quantum.

the controller is at ID 0 btw

[Framiga]

Try all the combinations (exept ID0).

Even try to change phisically the HD position on the chain.

Try, try and then try again.

Ciao

-edit- experiment with the terminator also

[JimS]

I'm more convinced it's a problem with the 2091... either the firmware or the revision level of the WD chip. I just tried one of my drives on the SCSI port of my GVP 030 combo. It formatted fine & came back after a re-boot. Then I moved it over to the 2091 & it's bad... it shows up as a drive, but NDOS.

[DoomMaster]

First of all, your BOOT Hard Drive should ALWAYS be set to ID # 0.  Your next SCSI device should be set for ID # 1 and so on.  The higher the ID number the lower the priority.  For some strange reason the A2091 SCSI Controller card loves Quantum Hard Drives the best.  Did you use the A2091 Installation software disk?  If you did not, you really should.   Here are the instructions for properly installing a new hard drive on an Amiga 2000HD.  I am assuming that you are booting from the A2091 Installation Software disk, like you should be doing.  Before you begin, make sure that the A2091 disk is NOT write protected (the new hard drive parameters MUST be written to the A2091 Installation disk.  Ok, here we go....

First, boot up your Amiga 2000HD with a copy of the original Amiga A2091 Installation Software disk.  Make sure that disk is write enabled.  Then load up the HDToolbox.  The first thing you have to do is to define the new drive type and save it to the disk in DF0.  If you do not do this, the Amiga 2000HD will not know what type of a hard drive is installed.  To do this:  Click on Change Drive Type on the Hard Disk Preparation, Partitioning and Formatting screen.  Then click on Define New Drive Type.  You can type in the drive's specifications, or you can have the system try to read the drive's specifications by clicking on Read Configuration from Drive.  When the correct specifications are selected, then click on OK to return to the Change Drive Type screen.  Then click OK again.  Next:    You MUST Low-Level Format the Hard Drive.  After formatting is complete, click on Verify Data on Drive.  This will check the hard disk for bad blocks.  Next Partition the hard drive and save the changes to disk.  Now, reboot your Amiga (warm reboot, NOT COLD).  Finally, click on each hard disk partition icon and select Initialize from the Workbench menu.  What revision are the BOOT ROMs on your A2091 card?

Revision 4.0 = 512 Megs or lower Hard Drives
Revision 6.6 = 1 Gig or lower Hard Drives
Revision 7.0 = up to 4 Gigs, but NOT higher!

I hope that I have helped you     :-D

[maxplunder]

 What revision are the BOOT ROMs on your A2091 card?

Revision 4.0 = 512 Megs or lower Hard Drives
Revision 6.6 = 1 Gig or lower Hard Drives
Revision 7.0 = up to 4 Gigs, but NOT higher!

I hope that I have helped you     :-D

To Doommaster:

U have helped,   and everybody else too.  I'll just have to wait until i can get a better Rom or a new Controller

Rev 1.3 = Kickstart
Rev 6.6 = BOOT ROM Odd & Even Chips
00-04 = Western Digital Chip