VERY 'dodgy' ebay seller!

[fatboy]

Hi!,
    a friend of mine has recently seen (and reported) this guy link
for selling pirated games....yet he is still doing it?

Most of the stuff is probably 'drop shipping' but he is adding 'dodgy' games in his vast stock.

Ebay doing it's job...I think not!

These are clearly copies DO NOT BUY!

[clint]

If my memory is correct, from the item location given, Swindon, Wilts. This guy has been selling pirated copies for years, with nothing done about it.

clint

[fatboy]

I thought ebay was clamping down on this sort of thing?
Perhaps they think the Amiga is too old to worry about!

[jimbo100]

The listing has been removed so eBay must have done something about it!

[fatboy]

jimbo100 wrote:
The listing has been removed so eBay must have done something about it!

Just a 100's  more to go then?....he has 1000+ listed items. many probably are legit? many probably aren't???

 :getmad:
no-one should profit from other peoples hard work...even if there is a demand for such 'dodgy' stuff!

[arkanoid]

if i recall correctly, i remember seeing him selling ancient software, which his customers probably found difficult to find. So what's the problem?

Fatboy, do you feel "righteous" and proud grassing him up to authority? You've probably prevented many people from enjoying their Amigas.

Congratulations, I hope eBay give you a pat on the head and a goldstar for your services and undying fanaticism. Nothing the Amiga community needs more than people like you, fighting the lost cause and helping the idiotic law "clamp down" on the distribution of 20+ year old software which even the original software developers couldn't give a toss about.

 :roll:

[Amithony]

Nothing the Amiga community needs more than people like you, fighting the lost cause and helping the idiotic law "clamp down" on the distribution of 20+ year old software which even the original software developers couldn't give a toss about.

 :roll:

I have to agree. Everyone does something dodgy at some point in their lives. How would you like to be treated in those instances? Since we are on the topic, why not crusade against downloaded videos and MP3s which the creators DO give a toss about.

[tone007]

I've got nothing against a little piracy, but trying to make money selling illegal copies of software is just plain cheesy, and clearly against eBay's rules.

[Amithony]

tone007 wrote:
I've got nothing against a little piracy, but trying to make money selling illegal copies of software is just plain cheesy, and clearly against eBay's rules.

Fair point i suppose. But i guess if you need to police what everyone else is doing, you must be doing something dodgy yourself. I don't condone piracy, but when the software is getting harder to find and the authors are past the fact that the Amiga is ageing technology, picking on the odd pirate isn't going to help. There are greater "causes" that could be pursued if you are so vehemently against casual copying. How much did the guy make from Alfred Chicken? Sounds a bit ludicrous to worry about to me. Look at the payouts executive directors get for screwing over companies. There's your cause if you're bored or a tad bit too self righteous.

[fatboy]

You guys are the first to complain about what 'killed' the Amiga in the mainstream (apart from Commodore themselves), and piracy was a factor as to why many software companies
stopped supporting the Amiga.

You all crave 'new' software, but new developers are reluctant to spend hours of there time knowing full well someone will soon be pirating their wares.

OK the guy is selling stuff that is as good as dead (and can be obtained freely....pretty much anywhere on the net)
However he IS selling in such a way as to imply that it is original!

Surly NO-ONE can support what he is doing?

And trust me, I am no do-gooder, just someone who was asked by a non-member to highlight this issue!

[fatboy]

 [/quote]

I have to agree. Everyone does something dodgy at some point in their lives. How would you like to be treated in those instances? Since we are on the topic, why not crusade against downloaded videos and MP3s which the creators DO give a toss about.[/quote]

I assumed that this was an Amiga forum, about Amiga things?.....the principle is the same for any copyright issue.

I personally don't download 'poor' quality DVD rips or Virus infested MP3's.....but no-one offering these 'downloads' are making out it's something it's not!

I thought Back2Roots where offering legal downloads of 100's of classic Amiga games??? why does anyone NEED to buy a pirated copy of a multitude of Amiga games just to line someone's pocket, who'll gladly take your money and run?

[Amithony]

fatboy wrote:
You guys are the first to complain about what 'killed' the Amiga in the mainstream (apart from Commodore themselves), and piracy was a factor as to why many software companies
stopped supporting the Amiga.

Piracy was what helped solidify and build the Microsoft empire. I know this for a fact as i used to work for them. (I hope that the Amigans don't hold it against me. I'm still an Amiga fan in every sense of the word Piracy acted as the biggest commercial that MS ever had and actually worked out cheaper per unit sold in some respects than TV and radio! It has only been lately that they have cracked down (circa XP SP2 I believe). Microsoft's mantra / mission was to have their software on every table of every resident in the world. It was an aspirational target that was built on the piracy that helped their brand get around. Is it still wrong? Probably. Are they earning enough to pay the bills, definitely. Have you ever copied a song from the radio or used a VCR to tape something off the TV? How about reading a magazine at the newsagent without buying it? If so, you are just as guilty. I find it laughable that you try to make a parallel to piracy rather than the poor marketing of Commodore which is renowned for the failure of the Amiga.

[fatboy]

@ Amintony

Simply highlighted that piracy was a FACTOR not the overall cause of the demise of the Amiga brand?

I certainly don't care deep enough to get involved with some 'heated' debate......I'm off to play on my A1200!  :-)

[Amithony]

fatboy wrote:
@ Amintony

Simply highlighted that piracy was a FACTOR not the overall cause of the demise of the Amiga brand?

I certainly don't care deep enough to get involved with some 'heated' debate......I'm off to play on my A1200!  :-)

Probably a good idea. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but no-one has the right to say theirs is necessarily right.  

[motorollin]

Amithony wrote:
Probably a good idea. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but no-one has the right to say theirs is necessarily right.  

Really?

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moto