Ibrowse2.3

[mahen]

But Voyager DOES support flash, doesn't it ?

[Kay]

> It's getting better. Haven't crashed 3.3.123 yet.

Well, that's good then, I might give it a go again, and see if it works as well here.

> Voyager PPC-BETA 3.3.123 (2002-04-02)
>
> Oh and it's pretty damn fast.

Really? Where can I get it? I can't seem to find anything but the Amiga 68k and the MorphOS verison on the Vapor site. What's the file called?

> Not quite.

Guess I was wrong, then. I wasn't aware of there being an Amiga PPC version. :-)

Kay

[Kay]

> But Voyager DOES support flash, doesn't it ?

It does, but it is for PowerUp. For me, this makes it quite unusable, since I run WarpUp, and the PowerUp emulation has a tendency of crashing YAM (well, at least it used to). Considering the popularity of WarpUp and YAM, I doubt I'm the only one in this situation.

Kay

[Piru]

> Really? Where can I get it?

ftp.vapor.com

> I can't seem to find anything but the Amiga 68k
> and the MorphOS verison on the Vapor site.
> What's the file called?

/pub/voyager/v3_3_beta123_morphos.lha

Runs perfect on my Amiga.


Hint: You didn't say AmigaOS. ;-)

[Alkemyst]

I find adding the IBrowse2.2_Patch.lha to IB2.2
And changing the Preferences,General,Default stack size to 131072
Makes it more stable & i can visit sites that would crash it before.
Oh & Make sure you have the latest MUI libs.

Yeah, I reckon the folks working on Ibrowse are doing the best they can.

It's all the cotton pickin' waiting.
It's killing me.

Everyone is pushing deadlines, trying to get things out soon.
And it seems to me like they are doing a good job at it.

I've waited this long, so a few more months ain't gonna kill me.

Forgive me for saying what I have about Ibrowse and also Pegesos.

The Amiga and other products are coming at last.
I'm sorry if I made anyone feel uncomfortable.

I'll shut my mouth now and watch everything come.
Just please people...
When you get you AmigaOnes in, don't be silent about it like the testers are doing.

[Argo]

CSS would be nice, I could care less about the rest.

[Argo]

From reading the FAQ, we'd be best to wait til version 3.0... Which looks like it might be a real brower, for the web that is.

[createcoms]

Im one of those beta testers.

And yes, as predicted - Im saying it's kick arss.


Well it is!  The Javascript is such a pleasure - certainly the best out of all the amiga browsers.  

I feel the decision to make iBrowse the official OS4 browser was wise.

[Kay]

> /pub/voyager/v3_3_beta123_morphos.lha
>
> Runs perfect on my Amiga.

Well, it IS a dead end then, as far as I am concerned. I have no plans of installing MorphOS as my main OS, and it has too little unique software to be worth the hassle of dual-booting it. So I will be stuck with an emulated 68k version if I am to use Voyager.

> Hint: You didn't say AmigaOS. ;-)

When I say "Amiga version", I usually mean "a version which runs on Amiga WITHOUT installing another OS". For example, I can get Civ2 running on my Amiga through MacOS, but I don't consider it to be an Amiga version. I could get some Linux software running on my Amiga through LinuxAPUS, but I still wouldn't consider it "Amiga software". When I get my AmigaOne, I will be most likely be dualbooting LinuxPPC with AmigaOS. Although everything runs on my AmigaOne, I will consider the software on the AmigaOS side as "Amiga software" and the rest as "Linux software".

If it doesn't run on AmigaOS, I don't consider it an "Amiga version".

Kay

[Nick]

What I meant was that if we are to get new serious users of future Amigas we NEED all the support we can get. Maybe you don`t care about JAVA, but other, new users maybe will. They will be told to go to a website by some friend and have to say "sorry this site doesn`t work on my computer". Thats a not a way to win more users. I`m fully aware that its not 100% the fault of the IBrowse people.

[Nick]

Basically we want IBrowse user ability with Netscape (or something) functionality.

[elendil]

Hey, Java is needed for most dating chats!

oh...nevermind

Anyway, my primary pc browser is opera and opera (my opera) never works with java or javascript, but then again, I never need it (barely never). The only thing I need fx Internet explorer for is my stupid bank.

I do however agree with the people saying we need a browser capable of all that (whether it be the browser team's responsibility or whoevers) to lure new users to the platform, which I think in some way is very needed.

If Ibrowse 2.3 works well with 'normal' sites, is stable and fast it will be a pleasure to use for me. However, 'just' targeting the current amiga users is a dead end (I think). What we want and need is not a lot more important than what the masses want and think they need.

Personally I love the fact that an amiga owner is usually a clever person with much different ideas about a computer and well-written software than pc users, but I think we need those pc users to raise money for future development. I do not know anything about AI's financial position, but I would think they could use the money.

Rambling on right from the break of dawn,

Sincerely,

-Kenneth Straarup.

[Damion]

I like A-Web, it's certainly the most stable on my
system, but with some sites it is horrible! On
A-Org, it redraws the whole screen everytime it loads
an avatar...it about gives me a headache. Ibrowse
is almost as stable, but the image quality is not
as good as A-Web (perhaps this can be changed, I'm
just not sure yet). Voyager is real fast, but also
suffers from poor image quality compared to A-Web,
and it crashes every 5 minutes, which doesn't really
give me the desire to register it.

I really hope Ibrowse 2.3 does 'kick butt', this crappy
browser thing is really starting to wear. Which reminds
me, I think I'll wait until OS4 has a real PPC browser
(that works at my bank) before I sign up.
 

[J]

@elendil

Hey, Java is needed for most dating chats!

oh...nevermind

Anyway, my primary pc browser is opera and opera (my opera) never works with java or javascript, but then again, I never need it (barely never). The only thing I need fx Internet explorer for is my stupid bank.

Dating chat  :-D

There were 2 Opera downloads. One was just the Browser, one was browser with JAVA install, IIRC. Perhaps you need to install the JAVA bit? It did make the download a fair bit bigger though. I use Opera for my main browser too. But again, it isn't supported for my bank(s)

@mounatinmyst

I think the current A1 developers can't really say too much - NDA. As soon as my G3SE arrives (hopefully next week  :-D ) I'll be posting very often! Part of this will be because I've never installed, or even looked at Linux before  :-o  Anyway, I want to try and get MacOnLinux running while I'm waiting for AOS4.

As regards Amiga browser (to get back on topic), I think everyone agrees it's vitally important to have one that 'just works' I look forward to iBrowse 2.3. I never really used it much before (only demo). I'm treating it as something that will get me by until iBrowse 3 is ready to go.

Cheers,

J

[elendil]

Well. I have a free connection and always download opera+java, but it has never worked with any version. I think javascript is just screwed (I know it is not related to the jre shipped with opera), while most java things seem to check for internet explorer, and kindly tell me that I am unable to use it.

My point was just that java is not really needed by _me_ (not just because I never get it working ,

As for the person saying he will wait for a decent browser that works with his bank...good luck. If your bank has a set of programmers alike in skill to the ones of the danish banks you will have to wait a long, long time. These are just horrible. The one I use (the best with fewest charges for every stupid thing you might be doing) requires a specific path for a keyfile, for example. And guess what: it's "c:\danskebank\somemore", rendering it unusable on my ibook, unless I use Virtual PC.

I could use a Virtual PC for AOS4.

Sincerely,

-Kenneth Straarup.