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Fair prices
« on: October 29, 2008, 01:51:50 AM »
Hello guys: i have been watching lot of Amiga items on different eBay sites during last weeks, and im surprised/shocked/amazed by the end up prices of some of the Amiga items, specially, accelerators and graphic cards.

I would like to ask you, honestly, what would you pay, or consider to be the best fair price for the following items:

Picasso II card
Picasso IV card
Retina Z II card
Retina Z III card
BVision card
Amiga PPC card (040 no scsi with FPU)
Amiga 1260 card (Blizzard)
Amiga 2000 (just the computer complete, no extra cards)
Amiga 4000 ()just the computer complete, no extra cards)
Cybervision 64 card
Cybervision 3D card
Warp Engine card
Blizzard 1230 card with copro & scsi add on
Flickerfixer/Scandoubler external



All of the above, is working, with manuals/drivers, but unboxed

Your honestly opinion will mean a lot to me, in pounds, dollars or euros, thats not a problem

Kind Regards

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Re: Fair prices
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2008, 02:31:09 AM »
Hmmm well I am a tight git and don`t have any money at the moment but if I was financially inclined again these are the prices that I would ideally pay and would try to.  Hope your not too disappointed with my answer, for me I rather spend more money on a newer Amiga as a lot of the hardware is now just too old and won`t last much longer.

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Timo

Picasso II card: £30.00
Picasso IV card: £45.00
Retina Z II card: £30.00
Retina Z III card: £45.00
BVision card: £45.00
Amiga PPC card (040 no scsi with FPU): £100.00
Amiga 1260 card (Blizzard): £80.00
Amiga 2000 (just the computer complete, no extra cards): £40.00
Amiga 4000 ()just the computer complete, no extra cards): £100-200.00
Cybervision 64 card: £50.00
Cybervision 3D card: £60.00
Warp Engine card: £100.00
Blizzard 1230 card with copro & scsi add on: £50.00
Flickerfixer/Scandoubler external: £50.00

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Re: Fair prices
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2008, 02:41:30 AM »
a friendly reminder to gavilan : If you stick by ami junkis prices, you'll never be able to buy hardware  :-P

I respect his opinions and hardware being old ans such, but reality is that everything in that list goes 2, 3 or 4 times the prices he has there (with the exception of Retina Z2 I think, which is just fair.)
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Re: Fair prices
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2008, 03:16:07 AM »
A better question is what people are paying.
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Re: Fair prices
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2008, 04:53:20 AM »
hehehe that`s true counzero, I think people probably will pay a lot more than I would usually ... I think that is why I always lose the auctions lol

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a friendly reminder to gavilan : If you stick by ami junkis prices, you'll never be able to buy hardware  :-P

I respect his opinions and hardware being old ans such, but reality is that everything in that list goes 2, 3 or 4 times the prices he has there (with the exception of Retina Z2 I think, which is just fair.)

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Re: Fair prices
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2008, 05:22:04 AM »
by the way, Retina Z2 doesn't have picasso96 or cybergraphx drivers, so you have to stick with its RetinaRTG drivers which kind of sucks. That's why it's considerably less valuable than other boards. Picasso II is gold, cause it's one of the best graphic cards that work on Z2. A lot of people hunt that one. Retina Z3, while having picasso 96 drivers (unlike Z2) not very desirable because it lacks pass through port. And itdoesn't work on Z2. Cybervision 64 is the best budget Z3 graphics board. I consider Picasso IV in its own class entirely, which is great value considering the AGA scandoubler it has and Z2/Z3 compatibility.
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Re: Fair prices
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2008, 06:05:12 AM »
Its amazing, I remember when I was back in the UK and it was I think `94 and I went the World of Amiga show and I managed to pick up an A3000 for 50 quid and Picasso II I think for around 30 quid, man I wish I had kept that stuff and not traded it in for an Amiga 1200 later on.

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Re: Fair prices
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2008, 09:53:05 AM »
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weirdami wrote:
A better question is what people are paying.


:eureka: Checked a few links which I bookmarked a while ago, all unboxed, used condition:

Cybervision64 2MB phase5, £120 / EUR 149,  290250602671
A4000/030, 3.1, 2Chip/16Fast, Buster11, HD/CD, £326 / EUR 406, 120320784879
Village Tronic Picasso II, £61 / EUR 76, 280253402247
Adiadne, Rev 1.2, £69 / EUR 86, 150278944776

 :rtfm: Please don't start to discuss these prices, that's what people have been paying at that time, that was the question here. Of course there are many other auctions, which ended lower or even higher, again, these few are just some real-world examples.
 

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Re: Fair prices
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2008, 10:05:13 AM »
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Adiadne, Rev 1.2, £69 / EUR 86, 150278944776


The guy who bought this is a complete sucker. He could buy a more capable card as new with only few extra euros !

 
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:rtfm: Please don't start to discuss these prices, that's what people have been paying at that time, that was the question here. Of course there are many other auctions, which ended lower or even higher, again, these few are just some real-world examples.


why not discuss the prices ? I think everybody has the right to state their opinion about what hardware costs these days. Why does it bother you so much ? were you seller of these stuff ?
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Re: Fair prices
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2008, 10:20:29 AM »
if i was in the market for any of these, i guess i would pay....

£40-50   Picasso II card
£80-100  Picasso IV card
£40-50   Retina Z II card
£60-70   Retina Z III card  
£80-90   B/CVision card      
£140-160 Amiga PPC card (040 no scsi with FPU), with scsi +£30, with 060 +£40
£150     Amiga 1260 card (Blizzard)
£40-50   Amiga 2000 (just the computer complete, no extra cards)
£120-160 Amiga 4000/030 (just the computer complete, no extra cards)
£60-70   Cybervision 64 card (with full 4Mb)
£70-80   Cybervision 3D card
£60-80   Warp Engine card
£60      Blizzard 1230 card with copro and memory.
£40      scsi add on for blizz 1230/1240/1260
£80      Flickerfixer/Scandoubler external

...without wincing too much... :lol:

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and probably just like the rest of you, crates full of related "treasure" for the above XD
 

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Re: Fair prices
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2008, 01:26:39 PM »
Excellent answers guys!!

You are really helping me a lot!!!

Please more feedback needed!!!!

Cheers!

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Re: Fair prices
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2008, 02:02:50 PM »
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Gavilan wrote:
Excellent answers guys!!

You are really helping me a lot!!!

Please more feedback needed!!!!

Cheers!

Sebastian


Why?? - Other than meaning "A lot" to you!  :-?  
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Re: Fair prices
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2008, 02:18:47 PM »
don't forget to add £50 to outgun the auction snipers!  :-)


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Re: Fair prices
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2008, 02:19:36 PM »
@Kin-Hell: dont get me wrong please. Im in a very delicated financial situation, and need to sell some Amiga stuff in order to pay all my debts.

All i needed was a reference to know how much could i sell some of my Amiga items, realistic prices, not eBay overprices...

And because im selling the stuff to local amiga users (Argentina), so i dont want to rip them off, but to offer them a fair and realistic price for the items...

Sorry if i made some of you feel umcofortable about this, it was not my intention

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Re: Fair prices
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2008, 02:29:50 PM »
@Gavilan

eBay prices are not overpriced prices, they are a true gauge of fair market value. If you want to sell locally for a "fair price", I'd say look at ebay prices and sell for 20-30% less. it saves you eBay, PayPal fees, time and headache while you are still not getting corn-holed.
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