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Microsoft to take you into the cloud
« on: October 28, 2008, 06:02:57 PM »
Microsoft to take you into the cloud
by William Maher
Oct 28, 2008
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Promises of "transformation" as Microsoft pumps its new Windows Azure "cloud-based" operating system.
Adobe's doing it, Google's doing it, and now Microsoft is shifting its cloud-computing campaign up a gear with today's announcement of Windows Azure.
The push from desktop to Web-based Apps that reside online shifted up a gear today with the announcement of Azure.

From what we can tell, Azure won't sit on your desktop - rather, it will host Web based apps, which can run purely online, or "enhance" existing desktop apps with Web capabilities (something software providers like Adobe have been pushing with their AIR technology).

Interestingly Microsoft is pushing the benefits at both PC and phones. The cloud trend is also being tied to the interesting in cheap notebooks designed with minimal processing power and storage, and to run apps online. Desktop "cloud PCs" have been around for a number of years - we covered one here recently.

More to come.

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Re: Microsoft to take you into the cloud
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2008, 06:11:28 PM »
George Orwell comes to mind here.... *your* apps running on publicly hosted systems now!   lol

Gosh, can I run Quicken on someone else's system too? Guess it's not much different than filing your taxes online  ;-)  

And who cares about running stuff on a "minimally processed system". When has anyone cared about owning "the minimum", especially in a WinDoze world?
 
 

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Re: Microsoft to take you into the cloud
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2008, 06:22:00 PM »
no thanks. cloud computing. blimey, what is this 1996? soon you'll be talking about thin clients again, oops, i'm too slow, thats already gaining momentum with VMware/Sun/Microsoft/Intel... again... blade servers, hypervisors, hardware transparency and virtualization ... blah blah blah....

mobile 3G speeds are only just realiable enough to stream audio from my home machine to my phone/netbook/whatever.
streaming video while moving and cell hopping leaves a bit to be desired, it works, yes, but it works best if you are in one location.

plus, like farcebook, would you like someone else looking after your data? you may delete that dodgy photo from your account, but if its been there long enough for their backup/snapshot system to grab a backup of your account/data, its theirs for as long as they like.

and then, how about if their servers go down. sorry. you can't look at your photos, play your game, edit your spreadsheets, print your contracts, cos we can't be arsed to sort it out yet...

also, if i have to load call of duty 4 over broadband every time i want a game, i'll be having to organise games weeks in advance.

nope. what i want, and pretty much nearly have, is all my stuff stored at home, and access to it from where-ever i am. more heavyweight stuff that an internet connetion couldn't cope with in a few minutes, gets stuck on my laptop or USB key.

what i want is a fatter pipe to my house, where i have my stuff, that i look after, and no-one else can access.

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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2008, 06:53:05 PM »
Good for their licensing department, bad for users. Sounds like any machines running this OS will be completely crippled in the event of a network connection failure - extremely inconvenient in a work environment or rural area, a disaster in the event of a real emergency.

I hope this online app craze passes soon.
 

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Re: Microsoft to take you into the cloud
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2008, 07:10:32 PM »
...I wished that about Nascar, rap & country music, Wal-Mart, cell phones, MySpace and the like eons ago  :-(  


 

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Re: Microsoft to take you into the cloud
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2008, 07:16:11 PM »
Sweet! I want a web based BSOD! that would be awesome.
"Your cloud has a fatal exception error" :lol:
 

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Re: Microsoft to take you into the cloud
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2008, 07:26:00 PM »
No thanks I will keep my private data to myself. There are to many organisations wanting to stick their noses into  peoples lives. Government departments being one of them.

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Re: Microsoft to take you into the cloud
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2008, 07:45:34 PM »
But cloud apps are just the beginning.  When the OS is stored on the cloud you know big brother will be truly watching (and monitoring) your activities.

It is the perfect tool for marketing and advertising.  The owners of the "cloud" will sell advertisers the rights to scan your public (private)data, searching for key words or browsing activity to enable them to target your machine with pop ups and spam.

I would imagine the Chinese government would love it - for us "westerners", it truly is a nail in the coffin for free speech and freedom of choice.

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Re: Microsoft to take you into the cloud
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2008, 08:20:40 PM »
Better get used to it, chumbos. with ever increasing bandwidth, cloud computing will become increasingly viable as time goes by. MS know this, that's exactly why they're preparing. Govenment/business can't wait to bait you and your personal data onto their servers.

no one will stop this trend, because no one ever does in these situations. what "they" want is what they will get and YOU will get used to it - over time - and eventually see absolutely nothing wrong with it.

it may take time, but Cloud computing is going to happen and nothing you do on your PC/Internet will be private. brace yourselves
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Re: Microsoft to take you into the cloud
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2008, 08:39:54 PM »
oh ho, speak of the devil. I have just recieved an email from PayPal who have been monitoring (snooping) on my PayPal account transactions:

"We are sending you this notice because you have received more than 650.00 GBP in total payments to your PayPal account.

PayPal is required by law to comply with European Union Anti-Money Laundering regulations to collect information from customers when they receive more than the set limit in total payments. Please log into your account, go to the Account Overview page, and follow the instructions there about how to provide the required information."

Apparently the average Joe (commoners, to our ruling Elite) is no longer allowed to sell their own property on eBay to make a little extra cash, without the government and tech-industry demanding we fill out a form explaining ourselves and justifying such "huge" sums (725.32 GBP in total) which they would rather we didn't have.

I wonder who's demanding an explaination from all the back-handers and corporate-bribery money many of our MPs launder through THEIR bank accounts?
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Re: Microsoft to take you into the cloud
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2008, 08:48:35 PM »
Well said.  Big business sells our jobs overseas and our government who is supposed to represent the people acts nothing worse or short of hookers on street, selling out to whoever throws money at them.  I agree with everything you said...  By the way today's global financial crisis, is a petty excuse for big business (starting with banks) to get their hands on government money (sponsored by taxpayers) so they can continue their ways.  This cloud stuff will put a nail on our rights, freedoms, job security and the world we knew in 20th century. :roll:
 

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Re: Microsoft to take you into the cloud
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2008, 08:49:22 PM »
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Apparently the average Joe (commoners, to our ruling Elite) is no longer allowed to sell their own property on eBay to make a little extra cash, without the government and tech-industry demanding we fill out a form explaining ourselves and justify such huge sums which they would rather we didn't have.


What happens if you don't fill out the form? Better remove all your money before trying to find out, though. ;-)

In the USA, it's 10000 dollars where the banks are required to report about. And, as it turns out, if you ask what that trigger anmount is, they are required to fill out a "suspicion" form because you might be trying to skirt the law by shifting less than the trigger amount. A form, which they would also fill out, incidentally, if you put in only $9999 at a time. One other weird big brothery law is that every transaction you do would be reported if you tried to open an account without giving your social security number. (Illegal aliens not withstanding. :roll: )
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Re: Microsoft to take you into the cloud
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2008, 08:50:50 PM »
Rights? What are they???

In this day and age it's all about a couple of things:

Control
Money

Who is in control and who has the money? Not joe public thats for sure.

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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2008, 09:52:12 PM »
F%$# Microsoft :madashell: They can kiss my hairy ass while Im using Amiga OS :crazy:
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Re: Microsoft to take you into the cloud
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2008, 11:03:39 PM »
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no one will stop this trend, because no one ever does in these situations. what "they" want is what they will get and YOU will get used to it - over time - and eventually see absolutely nothing wrong with it.


...that's gotta be one of the best collection of words I've ever read on AO. Very insightful.
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