A2000 Formatted HELP!

[Wain]

Okay, from what I've gathered (mind you it's been a LONG time since I've used an Amiga), it looks like you're having problems because you're trying to load the drivers for the GVP accelerator, which it can't find because you formatted your hard drive.

Hitting the left-mouse button during your bootup disabled the GVP accelerator and rebooted your system under the original 68000 CPU.

If your harddrive is coming up as 'Untitled' I can only assume that means that it's both mounted and formatted, and now just needs Workbench installed on it, and then your GVP software.  I however have absolutely no memory of how to do this, you might want to check the earlier advice some people have given in this thread.

It sounds like the hard drive is prepared, it just needs to have workbench copied over to it, probably some kind of copy sys: command or something.  After that, you're going to want to install the GVP software again.


mind you I could be really wrong.

[ddogg66]

Thanks Amigadude!

Here is the info i get AFTER i did what wain said (i am on a mac so I can't copy and paste the info from the amiga :-(  :

Unit:  Size:  Used:  Free:  Full: Errors:  Status:        Name:
RAM   2K       4           0       100%    0        Read/Write RamD
DF0     880K  1754    4       99%       0       Read Only GVP.in
DH0    203M  103      407526 0%    0       Read/Write Untitle

[ddogg66]

Wain, I think you're on the right track! Thanks so much. I could kiss you!!  :-o  :-P  I'll try to do the copy commands others noted in this thread and post my results afterwards:-D

[Amigadude]

ddogg66 wrote:
Here is the info i get AFTER i did what wain said (i am on a mac so I can't copy and paste the info from the amiga :-(  :

I'm not posting from my miggy but it's on the network so I can telnet into it and run commands and paste the output on this PC. The Amiga is my webserver BTW My webserver toy

Unit:  Size:  Used:  Free:  Full: Errors:  Status:        Name:
RAM   2K       4           0       100%    0        Read/Write RamD
DF0     880K  1754    4       99%       0       Read Only GVP.in
DH0    203M  103      407526 0%    0       Read/Write Untitle

Looks like 'DH0:' is the entry you needed for formatting.

But as you've already formatted try:
  copy df0:#? dh0: all clone
When you have the wb1.3 disk in drive

What happens if you reset with no floppy disk in?
If you just reformatted and didn't mess with the partitions it should still boot.  But because you formatted the drive it should just come up with a shell prompt.

If you wanna speed this up & you can use IRC jump on #amihelp channel on de1.arcnet.vapor.com.

I'm sitting there with the nick JohnN

[ddogg66]

Ok, once you have the HD formatted, you need to boot from the WB floppy disk, open it and go into the shell.

Then say:

copy sys: dh0: all clone

"output directory not found" is the message I get. I titled my previously untitled disk "workbench" and have replaced all occurences of "DH0" to "workbench" .

Here is where I am: I have the system booted from the 1.3 WB disk and have my HD now mounted (named "workbench") and a ram disk mounted (3 disks mounted)
So, what do I do now? I'm tempted to drop the WB disk in my "workbench" disk. Will this work or MUST I use the CLI window? If I must use the CLI window, I've tried all the previously mentioned command lines but none seem to do the job.
Let's start over. I have 3 mounted disks and no bootable partition ( i only have one partition it seems) So where to now? How to copy the full WB disk to HD?

Thanks again all!! 8-)

[ddogg66]

But as you've already formatted try:
  copy df0:#? dh0: all clone
When you have the wb1.3 disk in drive

Tryed typing this exactly as you did--bad argument
then typed copy df0:#? workbench: all clone--bad argument

My drive is named "workbench". Should I use that name with these CLI commands or DH0?

What happens if you reset with no floppy disk in?
If you just reformatted and didn't mess with the partitions it should still boot.  But because you formatted the drive it should just come up with a shell prompt.

This is exactly what happens. It boots with a shell prompt (ie 1>)

[Amigadude]

copy df0:#? Workbench: all clone

will copy the contents of the floppy to the harddrive

about not bootable...

try:

  install workbench:

or one of these disks

•GVP Impact Series II 030 Install Disk & Harddisk installation
•Trump Pro Configuaration Utilities Rev. Z.1C
 
I would think includes partitioning s/w that can set the partition as bootable.

[Jope]

about not bootable...

try:

install workbench:

You do *NOT* install hard drives. The Amiga *CAN* use bootblocks on hard drives, but those are never ever used and the bootblock is not needed in order to boot from the partition.

To make a hard drive partition bootable, you set it to be bootable in a partition editing tool.

[Jope]

Steady wrote:
Yes you do!

Without the install command, the boot block of the Workbench partition will not be able to boot. This code is REQUIRED on any bootable partition, be that floppy disk, hard disk or otherwise.

The only thing that may be a prob there, is optimising the startup-sequence for harddrive use. I think C= put a hard drive startup-sequence for use, but since I can't remember the details, I cannot advise further on this.

It is amazing how being at work can make your responses overly formal.  :-o

Please don't feed misinformation to those who need help, if you don't know what you're talking about.

1) installing hard drive partitions isn't necessary, the bootable bit in the RDB is for that
2) you don't need to do anything to the startup-sequence, if the hd controller is autobooting (which it is in this case)

I'm at home, so I can be as informal as I like.

[iamaboringperson]

What I want to know is why are so many people coming up with this 'install' crap for HDD's anyway? Which AmigaDOS manual makes that suggestion?

[Jope]

ddogg66 wrote:
"output directory not found" is the message I get. I titled my previously untitled disk "workbench" and have replaced all occurences of "DH0" to "workbench" .

Here is where I am: I have the system booted from the 1.3 WB disk and have my HD now mounted (named "workbench") and a ram disk mounted (3 disks mounted)
So, what do I do now? I'm tempted to drop the WB disk in my "workbench" disk. Will this work or MUST I use the CLI window? If I must use the CLI window, I've tried all the previously mentioned command lines but none seem to do the job.
Let's start over. I have 3 mounted disks and no bootable partition ( i only have one partition it seems) So where to now? How to copy the full WB disk to HD?

Thanks again all!! 8-)

Ok, try

copy sys: dh0: all

If you drop the wb disk icon on your hd disk icon, it won't work. The default tool for disks is sys:system/diskcopy, which makes track for track copies -> won't succeed, because your hard drive's geometry is very different to the floppy's geometry.

The Shell is the only way for an out of the box 1.3, I'm afraid.

[Steady]

@Jope:

Actually, I do know what I am talking about. It has just been a while (read many years) since I have used 1.3 in any serious way.

I stand corrected on the Install command, however. I was incorrect about this. I got home and confirmed that it is not intended for hard drives.

The copy commands, however, should generally work fine, however.

I was posting to help this new user out and do not intend to spread 'misinformation' at any time.

Occassionally any of us can make small errors, and
I am more than happy to be politely corrected at any time.

I know C= did have a hard-drive startup-sequence script on the Workbench 1.3 disk I had long ago, but you are right in that it is certainly not vital. It can add to some confusion for a new user.

[Framiga]

@all

OS 1.3 SS-HD
-----------------------------------------------

; Startup sequence for Hard Disk users...checks for hard disk, then
; transfers control if it is present. (The script assumes DH0:)
; TO USE: copy your normal startup-sequence files (Startup-Sequence,
; and StartupII to the S: directory of your hard disk.
; Then rename your normal Startup-Sequence file
; as Startup-Sequence.f in the S: directory of the floppy, just in case.
; Now replace the Startup-Sequence file on the floppy with this file.
;
setpatch
SYS:System/FastMemFirst
binddrivers
assign >NIL: DH0: exists
IF NOT WARN
; hard disk is present
assign sys: dh0:
assign c: SYS:c
assign L: SYS:l
assign FONTS: SYS:fonts
assign S: SYS:s
assign DEVS: SYS:devs
assign LIBS: SYS:libs
makedir ram:tr
assign t: ram:tr
execute s:Startup-Sequence
ELSE
; no hard disk
execute s:Startup-Sequence.f
ENDIF

------------------------------------------

Hope this help.

Ciao

[Amigadude]

The formatting go ok?

You had any luck copying the OS across?

JohnN

[fx]

I held both mouse button at boot and drives listed were: df0 and dh0 so my HDD must be dh0, right?

Isn't the early startup menu only present in 2.0+ ?

[ddogg66]

The formatting go ok?

You had any luck copying the OS across?

JohnN

Well, JohnN has been dedicating a lot of his time to me over IRC and has been overly helpful. He has spent *hours* helping me with my machine-a true Amiga saint! I would be so lost without him and IRC. the posting method is very slow compared to the chat.

Anyway I have done so many things to my system over the last 2 days it would be impossible to document it all here. In a nutshell, I was able to get the HD to mount by loading the trumcard floppy and booting while holding down the left mouse key (as wain so kindly pointed out). I then used the Trumpcard s/w to format and partition my drive. After i copied WB 1.2 over to dh0: and rebooted on the HD, I then installed my toaster 2.0 s/w w/o a hitch...
except..
now when i boot from HD, after installing toaster soft, i get this message:

setpatch:Unknown command
setpatch failed return code 10
1>

All i want to do is get my workbench up so I can start the toaster soft. What must i do? All the files are in order and dh0: is mounted.

thanks all! :-D