The coolest thing I've seen this week

[cicero790]

I like your thinking Raffaele. I also believe in a future for the three.

[Raffaele]

odin wrote:
Another cool thing I saw was a burning heap of anti-Apple-zealots.

Well defending amiga fierce from ravenous rampage of Windoze users and Macholic users is just self defence of the platform we choosen, and not zealotry...

We perfectly know what Amiga lacks, and we are figthing for a more better stable and usable platform.

Now it is too simple and offending if anybody came here on Amiga.org and saying you/he have/has seen coolest things on other platforms, just because on other platforms there are enough money to develop coolest thiongs easy...

It is easy to develop coolest things on Windows, if you hav 95% of the market and Micro$oft behind your shoulders...

It is easy for Apple to develop new machines as all its revenues are coming from IPOD market...

[KThunder]

i want to get an old g4 mac tower case, put pc guts into it and run aros on it :-D

apple does make some pretty stuff, never liked the classic os or saw the point in the new one over a good linux distro.

just need a few more things for aros and i can continue to ignore apple and ignore ms a bit more  :-D

oh wait i stepped into a flame war :-o  ummm XP rulz :flame:

>me ducks behind all the dead horses that seem to be piling up gaaa this one stinks what about that flashy new vista horse :-P

[cicero790]

I saw an ad yesterday on a little used two shaded gray compac desktop. p3 800mhz, usb, network, gpu. I thought what a little perfect AROS machine. Well, price? (Please sit down) 28 Euros. The casing even matched the mithrandir wallpaper in AROS. As soon as AROS gets the browser....

[kickstart]

Mac never has a demoscene, no presence in partys... this is no good for a platform (in my opinion of course).

My experience with mac is very short, i bought one when macmini ppc was released, g4 with 256mb of ram comes with panther 10.3 (too funny the feline names for OSs).

10.3 with 256mb runs aceptable except when load some apps becomes slow, people says... install a 512mb dimm and 10.3 fly... after with 10.4 the same... install 1gb dimm and 10.4 fly... now with 10.5... put 2gb or more!... where? when? macmini ppc just accept 1gb of ram. This in a computer with a years, seems very sad.

At least morphos is here to rescue macminis  :-)

[cicero790]

kickstart wrote:

10.3 with 256mb runs aceptable except when load some apps becomes slow, people says... install a 512mb dimm and 10.3 fly... after with 10.4 the same... install 1gb dimm and 10.4 fly... now with 10.5... put 2gb or more!... where? when? macmini ppc just accept 1gb of ram. This in a computer with a years, seems very sad.

At least morphos is here to rescue macminis  :-)

Yes, its insanity, the same with my OS Windows.

[mdwh2]

uncharted wrote:
@Moto

Well I deliberately decided not to mention the other "cool thing" as it might be a controversial thing around these parts and I didn't want to draw attention away from the real subject by attracting a bunch of narrow-minded idiots raving on about how they hate XYZ.

I've never seen that - what's more likely IME is you get a flood of posts saying how Apple are the best thing ever, and being "narrow-minded" raving how they hate PCs. And indeed, these are the sorts of posts you got after this.

At that point it's fair game to argue against it - and disagreeing with a claim doesn't make one narrow-minded, I'd say it's more narrow-minded not to want to hear anyone else's views...

[pixie]

@Raffaele:

I had had provoked if I had said that Mac Luzers are Loozers on a Mac site...

So an Amiga user/fan cannot have a mac... what load of rubbish....

It is easy for Apple to develop new machines as all its revenues are coming from IPOD market...

Build yourself a revenue income then, what's Apple fault again, making money? :roll:

[stefcep2]

Raffaele wrote:

New OSes are full of eyecandies but with no real contents at all, and all these eyecandies are here just to justify the purchase of new pumped hardware...

What a waste of money and what a waste of good hardware...

 I first witnessed this in a Mac mag at the time of MacOS 8, that did a how-to on creating 32-bit icons.  32-bit, when i was running an 8 color magic wb theme that smoked in terms of responsiveness.  At the same time I was learning 3D rendering in Cinema$d in Amiga format.  So thats what the "creative mac" types do with their time: create slow resource-hogging icons.  And  most of the time the icons give you little clue as to what they represent, create visual clutter and generally slow your work flow in addition to slowing up the hardware performance.

Thats why Lightwave all versions use buttons with text rather than pics and an 4-8 color interface.  Thats why I use MagicWB on a 256 color cgx 1024x768 with dock buttons with text only, and I always configure text buttons rather than pics if I can.  people have forgotten that form follows function: if it works well for you it will look fine.

[stefcep2]

cicero790 wrote:

kickstart wrote:

10.3 with 256mb runs aceptable except when load some apps becomes slow, people says... install a 512mb dimm and 10.3 fly... after with 10.4 the same... install 1gb dimm and 10.4 fly... now with 10.5... put 2gb or more!... where? when? macmini ppc just accept 1gb of ram. This in a computer with a years, seems very sad.

At least morphos is here to rescue macminis  :-)

Yes, its insanity, the same with my OS Windows.

i have a feeling that change amongst users is coming as evidenced by the vista debacle.  most users are now second generation at least, so many have been through the hardware upgrade to use xp, and now they are saying no to vista because other than eye candy, they see no advantage, and worse, it does everything slower than xp.  We now have  multi-core systems running at ghz speed with gb of rame amazing gfx chips and we still gotta wait to open a window on screen WTF?

[persia]

@Raffaele

Because I like retro.  It reminds me of the days of my youth.  And, and, and I can use the Amiga without fear of doing work 'cause I could do anything resembling work even if I wanted to.  It's a chance to relive the heady days of the eighties, when computing was young and you had to do without so many of the modern conveniences.  

The Amiga is the computer equivalent of camping out under the stars.

[adz]

@Raffaele

Did you even read the initial post? It had nothing at all to do with Mac fanboyism. Get down from your soapbox and stop acting like a three year old throwing a tantrum. We're adults here, so start behaving like one.

In vaste major of Mac related sites you will be kicked out and your thread will be completely removed to be sure that other people could not see it.

Doesn't that itself say something about the quality of this community, well until the likes of you showed up and ruined it for everybody else. Again, it all goes back to PROPERLY reading the original post, had you done that, you'd have realised that it had nothing to do with Macs being superior in the first place.

[pyrre]

@ raffaele
Your pegasos. how modern is it?
quad core cpu @ 2.8ghz, 8 gigabyte ram, two gfx cards in an sli mode pushing it to the very fastest graphics possible with todays technology?

Like bloodline i am a technology geek...
I just like technology. Anything...
of course, anything i see any use for...

(bluetooth, you can keep that to yourself. i cant see any use for it on a computer. for my phone and handsfree... mmm.. ok..)

[adolescent]

da9000 wrote:
Like every other company (and just like almost products you are using daily, yes, YOU), Apple also uses Chinese plastics and chemicals. The difference is that they try to use parts that contain the least of known hazardous materials, but which still offer the same or better quality. Read more here (and click on the "tabs" at the top for product design, etc.): http://www.apple.com/environment

One other important factor to consider is that Apple is sensitive to this matter and it's something they'll keep "in check". Don't expect any "dying from milk babies" problems from their camp. Now as to what Dell or HP or Acer use for their computers... I don't know, why don't you go ahead and use them and let us know in a few years :-)

They're sensitive to it because they received the worst environmental ratings of the US manufacturers for the last several years.  I agree they've turning things around quite a bit, but you can't say they're using "all green" technology.  The technology changes you're talking about are only in the brand new MacBooks.  iMacs still have the same old BFRs, PVC, and mercury filed TFTs, etc.  iPods are disposable, and AFAIK, there isn't a model that has an user removable battery for proper disposal.  

Here's their ranking in 2007 (when Steve decided to go green):


Link to current rankings:  (Could not embed the 9th edition since it's available as a SWF object only, not a picture..)
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns/toxics/electronics/how-the-companies-line-up

I'll give them credit when they actually implement everything they say they will.  Until then they're doing much less than Dell, HP, Toshiba, Sony, Acer, etc.

[amigadave]

I come back from AmiWest where there was so much friendship and good times, to this crap.

They say ignorance is bliss, so I guess there are a few here that must be very happy all the time.  I will leave it to all of you to choose which ones are so "blissful", but this kind of thread is so unproductive.

Amiga.org is a great place to visit (usually), let's keep it that way.

[sdyates]

uncharted wrote:
@Moto

Well I deliberately decided not to mention the other "cool thing" as it might be a controversial thing around these parts and I didn't want to draw attention away from the real subject by attracting a bunch of narrow-minded idiots raving on about how they hate XYZ.

But seeing as you asked.. I got one of these.

I genuinely found that screenshot to be way cooler.  That looks great for a 16 colour screen running on 16-year old hardware.  For all the shiny, swooshy effects that you get in the big 3 OSes these days, the hard work and attention to detail that people pushing the low-end show impresses me far more.

That is cool... several years ago, I waited for OS4.0 and some hardware to come out of Amiwest, nothing came and I decided to give up the wait and finally buy a Mac... In the world of Wintel, it is the closest I can get to the Amiga.... However, I have found 10.5 to be so plagued by bugs. If I did not have so much software installed, I would go back to Tiger!