The coolest thing I've seen this week

[zylesea]

da9000 wrote:
For example, who in the industry uses all green tech for the materials of the laptop? Apple does.

ROFL! Apple green?! Moohaaha!
Man, Apple were recently one of the worst companies according to ecological and social standards (at least when considering their partner production plants in China).
Now they got a pot of green color and painted their house grenn and wanna make ppl think they were innovatibve in ecological standards.
There are really plenty reasons to actually like Apple, but their ecological standard definitively doesn't belong to that card.

[ami_junki]

For me I gotta say I like using Apple computers but for them being better or trying to make a better computer for people is all bull, Apple is the best company for creating spin and they do it really really well, I was using Macs for around 12 years alongside my Miggy but due to the arrogance and sheer sillyness sometimes of the prices and repairs I am really going sour on Apple.  Take for example the MacBook, it is a wonder of Apple design, they took the best parts and used the strongest parts that they could find, total and utter bollocks, my screen cracks 6 months into use, I did nothing, I call up Apple, they want 600 quid to replace the screen, I tell them that their products are good but I a not that stupid, so I buy the SAME screen from the internet for 100 quid and install it quickly .... now is it the Apple experience really worth 400 quid more .... don`t get me wrong, they have some nicely designed products but also they have some really badly designed products just they are better than your average PC.

[pyrre]

@ cantido

I wonder what the difference is between Chinese plastics/chemicals and the stuff everyone else uses... hmmmmmm absolutely nothing? A lot of factories outside China use Chinese plastics.

The Chinese have been known to STILL use lead in their "environmentally" friendly plastics....
A series of children toys sold in Norway (and probably the rest of the world too) was containing lead...
In Norwegian (sadly)
Some of these products are made in china.... My kid sister has some of those plastic animals shown on picture 5... made in china....

[cantido]

pyrre wrote:

The Chinese have been known to STILL use lead in their "environmentally" friendly plastics....

And guess what... factories in the EU use materials sourced from China. I worked running injection molding machines between university stints and loaded bags of material with "Made in China" and hanzi written all over the bags into the hoppers... so I'm not just giving you "stuff I found on the internets"

[Raffaele]

Apple Users? Bunch of Luzers!

Do Apple pays you any little money for making Mac evangelism on pages of Amiga only sites?

Go in Apple Stures and pay your money for overpriced Intel hardware with a cool design for rich computer noobs, and pay your money for a FREE OS (BSD) full of eyecandies and renamed as Mac OS X to get it copyrighted.

Apple are the jackals of the computer world.

They started by recycling chips in the trash and later they got the idea of icons and mouse from Xerox and never stopped since then.

[tone007]

Que viva los dolces de ojos!

..or something.

Eyecandy is important, and a big part of why I purchased an '060 accelerator for my 1200.

[Raffaele]

tone007 wrote:
Que viva los dolces de ojos!

..or something.

Eyecandy is important, and a big part of why I purchased an '060 accelerator for my 1200.

Only enhance graphics is important...

Eyecandies are for n00b2...

[EDIT]

And perhaps with eyecandies, the computer world entered in its BAROQUE age...

New OSes are full of eyecandies but with no real contents at all, and all these eyecandies are here just to justify the purchase of new pumped hardware...

What a waste of money and what a waste of good hardware...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baroque

In informal usage, the word baroque can simply mean that something is "elaborate", with many details

The term "Baroque" was initially used with a derogatory meaning, to underline the excesses of its emphasis. In particular, the term was used to describe its eccentric redundancy and noisy abundance of details, which sharply contrasted the clear and sober rationality of the Renaissance.

[jj]

Most people who have any sort of imagination or creative soul prefer things to be aesthetically pleasing.

[bloodline]

Hahaha :lol: yeah because using out of date technology makes a computer so much more special!

I'm happy Apple now use the latest technology, now I can use the best tech in a machine that looks like a work of art.

Oh, and MacOS X isn't "just BSD with eye candy", I suggest reading up on the Coca application framework and the XNU kernel... Wikipedia will help here.

[AmigaMance]

@uncharted
 Have you regretted that you made this thread?

[Raffaele]

bloodline wrote:
Hahaha :lol: yeah because using out of date technology makes a computer so much more special!

I bought a Pegasos machine in 2005, its hardware it is of 2001/2002 and it is rock solid hardware, and only now it is beginning becaming out-of-date, but just because there is RAM DDR2, SATA HDDs, and PCI express bus out of there.

But If I will never buy a 3GIG RAM computer only to run unuseful Vista or spend more money for MAC just to have cool designed cases.

And in graphics and usability I can pi** on any baroque macquintosque...

I'm happy Apple now use the latest technology, now I can use the best tech in a machine that looks like a work of art.

This answer really demonstrates your presence here is unuseful...

Get lost in macholic sites, and do not bother us anymore if you are not an amigan anymore.

People like you who hail different techologies, just for their look appeal, is best to be lost than to stay in our community.

Oh, and MacOS X isn't "just BSD with eye candy", I suggest reading up on the Coca application framework and the XNU kernel... Wikipedia will help here.

Apple: Money from su*k*rs and OS from free...

Indeed it is a big business making an OS that easy and sell it overpriced by just adapting a kernel, a graphic interface, and a mac filesystem on an exsisting free multitasking OS...

EDIT:

And perhaps I believed in new Amiga-like hardware and I invested my money in it...

And am I happy with it?

YES!

I can testimoby my peggy is a cool computer with cool OS!

Who had the same courage here on this forum and purchased new Amiga machines to keep alive the platform?

[jj]

You talk a fair amount of rubbish.  Whatever people choose to use, or like is their perosnal opinion and their choice.

If anyone should go and use another site its you.  You bring nothing to a conversation and seem to know very little.

At least bloodline has decent knowledge and objective views.

[cicero790]

I agree with you uncharted. Pushing the low-end is great satisfaction. I got the same feeling after installing Amiga SYS 4 recently and made a jump from WB3.0. That’s kind of equivalent of moving from win 98 to vista. My old A1200 just shined of pride and capability. It was great.

This discussion, that is about to turn into full scale war, is completely pointless to me. Why? Because I hate Mac and love pc or vice versa. No. Because I care about Amiga.
I care about the vintage.
I care about AROS and MORPH OS.
And I care about the new Amigas and OS4 even if don’t have all of these machines and os’s.
PC and Mac is just beasts of burden.

My hope is that all the Amiga os’s move towards cheap x86 x64 hardware so more people can afford it. I have not dicided yet if I will go for a SAM.

I keep my powermachine(PC) in a closet with its own ventilation that suck out excess heat to the main chimney.
I don’t see it. I don’t hear it, despite roaring fans, and I don’t care how it looks. But it takes care of business.

[Raffaele]

JJ wrote:
You talk a fair amount of rubbish.  Whatever people choose to use, or like is their perosnal opinion and their choice.

If anyone should go and use another site its you.  You bring nothing to a conversation and seem to know very little.

At least bloodline has decent knowledge and objective views.

We are on AMIGA.ORG and not on MAC.ORG

And perhaps what part of "This is an Amiga related forum" you did not understand?

So stay in topic with Amiga...

If you prefer Macintoshes and buy Mac hardware, well I congratulate with you, but then please post your mac apprecciation on Mac related sites.

We AMIGANS want to talk about Amiga here...

[jj]

This site has always allowed and welcomed discusssions about other OS/Hardware.  This is usually supposed to be in the correct forums, and this thread has gone slightly OT.

If you want to be an amiga zealot with no logic that I suggest you hang arounf amigaworld.net.  They will love you there

EDIT:  Just for the Record , I have never owened anything made by apple. Or never used a MAC.

I wont but an ipod, but doesnt mean if other people choose to use them , and I dont, doesnt make them wrong.

And perhaps what part of "This is an Amiga related forum" you did not understand?

Sorry didnt realise you were a MOD on this site, oh wait there your not.

[bloodline]

@Raffaele

Ok, I do in some way agree with you... I love the Amiga, but you have to remember why I fell in love the Amiga. It was the best machine of its time.

The amiga is a retro hobby machine now, it supliments my serious computing needs. This site isn't an exclusive club, it's an inclusive club for those who need help with Amiga stuff or want to talk about amiga stuff... Regardless of wether or not people even own an Amiga any more.