Mac Mini G4...throw it away or keep it?

[persia]

1) There are millions of these thing out there, the available of both Mos and OS4 won't change the price of them 5 cents.
2( Leopard is, in most cases faster than Tiger.
3) Gentoo PPC exists.

[adolescent]

persia wrote:
1) There are millions of these thing out there, the available of both Mos and OS4 won't change the price of them 5 cents.

Millions?  :crazy:  

As for the price, I think it would change the resale value.  Mac users certainly don't want them.

[justthatgood]

I'll take your Mini Mac!! All I have is a little Quadra 650, PowerMac G3 Beige MiniTower and my Apple IIGS.


I'll take anyones free stuff..

[kickstart]

 Well, i can understand a bit to this user, i have a mac mini g4 too, its a good machine i think, but osx for me is not the magical experience of OS that some people talk about, osx come with a good looking desktop but is too easy or hard using the unix-like-terminal... i dont feel the amiga style with this OS, no scene or a good amiga like community, just a "think different" slogan a little bit elitist, maybe im wrong but is my opinion.

 Im waiting for morphos in the macmini ppc is the hope to this machine.

[persia]

@kickstart

The Amiga was always about being elitist.  Back in the day the Amiga could run circles around the competition, we Amiga owners knew that and never hesitated to tell others about it...  Now it's elitist in the sense that we can plunk down hundreds of Euros on 20 year old technology!

As for OS X, it's Unix certified, the terminal is a Bash shell, I would have killed for a Bash shell on the Amiga.  there are amazing and wonderful things you can do in it.  Learn it and you will never want for another command line interface.

You can't really comapre the Amiga GUI with the Leopard GUI, there's several generations of computer technology between them.  In the '80s memory was quite dear, so if a feature could be done without it was.  Now we have cheap memory and lots of it.  The OS can bloom into it's full potential.  So essentially you are comparing The Flyer (The Wright Brother's plane) with an A380.

And the Mac crowd are even more a club than the Amiga folks were.  Remember you are comparing a community around a computer who's manufacturer died 13 years ago and a community around a computer that's at it zenith.

[TrevorDick]

gaula92

Keep your Mac Mini, you never know what might happen!  I'm keeping mine.

If you really do want to sell it check out the current bids on ebay.  There are usually a lot of G4 Mac Mini's for sale.

TrevorD

[Zac67]

you are comparing The Flyer (The Wright Brother's plane) with an A380.

Come on, do the Amiga a bit more justice. The Flyer's already reserved to the PET, make that at least a P-51 - or better a Me 262 - the begin of a new era! :lol:

[bloodline]

Zac67 wrote:

you are comparing The Flyer (The Wright Brother's plane) with an A380.

Come on, do the Amiga a bit more justice. The Flyer's already reserved to the PET, make that at least a P-51 - or better a Me 262 - the begin of a new era! :lol:

I believe you mean the Gloster Meteor, Sir! ;-) :lol:

[Trev]

@adolescent

Millions? :crazy:

Yeah. Although, Apple sold (very roughly) 2.7 million desktops during the PowerPC Mini's tenure (Januuary 2005 - February 2006). If we assume less than 33% of those desktops were Minis, that puts the number somewhere at or below 900,000. That's still a respectable number of machines; however, their small size probably found quite a few of them destined for a landfill, especially in the US, where we don't care too much about that sort of thing.

The powers that be really need to decide whether the "Amiga" should be a software solution or a hardware solution. In today's market, it certainly can't afford to be both.

[beller]

Leopard should run just fine on that G4, especially if you upped the memory.  I won't run a Mac with less than a GB of ram anymore.

Perhaps, most likely, your installation of OS4 significantly corrupted the Mac installation.  Have you checked the HD with the utilities?

I'd start with a format of the hard drive and a clean install of the Mac OS before I declared the machine lost.

Bob

[kickstart]

@persia

Sorry im not comparing the old amiga with present macs im just talking about my opinion of osx and this "community", osx is a good OS but (for me)need something that i cant explain not just photoshop and rest of professional suites.

And talking about elitism... in the times of amiga the amiga community maybe was elitist but with some reasons, now at this times a computer mounting same componets equals to acers, hp, dell... with a good loking enclosure its not the same.

Please dont take this offensive or something.

[klx300r]

sell it :-P

[TheMagicM]

(you win, f**ng wimps who didn't want it to spread: Amiga OS 4 won't show anything readable in my mini, just boots and shows currupt screen even with the fixed "safe" radeon driver),

I dont think its that they got it working, nobody did.  

[Raffaele]

gaula92 wrote:
Since the Amiga OS 4.0 - Moana fiasco (you win, f**ng wimps who didn't want it to spread: Amiga OS 4 won't show anything readable in my mini, just boots and shows currupt screen even with the fixed "safe" radeon driver), I am seriously thinking on selling this machine.

Moana is not a fiasco...

There is only an alpha-pre-release version spreading in Peer2Peer and Torrent sites, and it works only on certian MacMini models with specific Firmware and specific Graphic Card...

And perhaps it is a PIRATED version of Moana...

So do not blame Moana manufacturers because you used pirated software and it did not work...

:oops:

:-P

[alex]

Sell it to me, my daughter's mac died and Apple want $700+ to fix it!!!  They MUST be smoking that crack.

Send me a message and let me take it off your hands so she can get off my back.

BTW.  She's 12 and just laughs at all my Amigas so giving her one of my Amigas won't happen.  She uses Fedora now, but needs to do imovie and finalcut pro.

So, for selfish reasons, ditch the mac and sell it to me.

-Alex

[StormLord]

Just a technical comparison between 10.4 and 10.5 (tiger and Leo) by a technician.

Tiger is the faster OS that apple produced its the best MacOSX for low powered Macs.
faster than 10 10.1 10.2 10.3 by far
till 10.4 every updated version of apple is faster than previous.
10.5 is another story thought..
most of its user interface is heavily depended on the graphic card GPU instead of CPU than 10.4 prefers.. 10.4 also uses GPU but not for the whole interface.
that gives an advantage for Leo on modern machines say DUAL G5 and up.
Because its frees up the cpu to compute other things..
but generaly in older machines G4 with not some extreme card fitted in it Tiger feels way faster.
Example: on my G4 that is a Dual G4 OC at 1.5 with 2mb L3 cache per prossesor with an X850XT 256mb GFX and 2x Stripe raid (1 on internal ata 100 and one on external raid case Firewire800) leo and tiger are about even.
leo is faster in some things and tiger is faster on some others, but as you see that is not a "common" mirror drive g4.
If you feel that 10.4 is slow then I suggest you to format the drive and do a clean installation of tiger without geeky add ons and the mini will realy fly that way.