Could the current finacial crisis in the US influence the outcome of the Amiga ./. Hyperion case?

[Dandy]

While following the news about the latest finacial crisis in the US and having heard McCains statement that he wants to clean the US-economy from fraudulous managers, I was wondering if this spirit might influence the courts way of deciding the Amiga vs. Hyperion case (e.g. merciless prosecution of fraudulent business practices and severe punishment of the offender) and if this might finally lead to the incarceration of Pentti Kouri and his gang, including MacBill?

What do you think?

[Piru]

You gotta be kidding me.

The notion that financial situation would somehow influence the way courts work is silly. Even if it would, the supposed acts have already happened, and the courts can't reinterpret the law ex post facto.

Even though Kouri's actions might be immoral, it doesn't necessarily make them illegal. What supposedly is "fraudulent" in his business?

[impactor]

... and if this might finally lead to the incarceration of Pentti Kouri and his gang, including MacBill?

What do you think?

I doubt we would ever see that!  :lol: :-D

What politicians say and do are two completely different things!  They all say what people want to hear, but really they all are looking out for their own interests.

And if anything with the US economy as it is, I would be cynical enough to think that in such a economic climate US courts will tend (even more than usual) to support US based companies in international disputes, and considering Hyperion are Belgium based.

I guess though who knows???   :-?

[impactor]

The notion that financial situation would somehow influence the way courts work is silly.

Oh yeah, sorry I forgot, that the the US judicial system is so virteous and true - how silly!   :lol:  :lol:

Like it's really silly that tax payers should bail out greedy financial corporations???  :crazy:

[gaula92]

Just thinking about those awfull neocon piranhas with McCain as head getting his hands on the US govermet, makes me feel a deep, deep despair. I TRULY hope you aren't THAT stupid...  

[Dandy]

Piru wrote:
You gotta be kidding me.

The notion that financial situation would somehow influence the way courts work is silly.

It is NOT my notion that financial situation would somehow influence the way courts work - I just asked if this could be possible.

Please read my posting more carefully next time!

I hope you know the difference between "notion" and "question"...
 :roll:

Piru wrote:

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Even though Kouri's actions might be immoral, it doesn't necessarily make them illegal. What supposedly is "fraudulent" in his business?

Pentti Kouri (->Kouri-deals)

Or just think of the AInc(W)->ITEC->KMOS->MKOS->AInc(D) shell game...

[redrumloa]

gaula92 wrote:
Just thinking about those awfull neocon piranhas with McCain as head getting his hands on the US govermet, makes me feel a deep, deep despair. I TRULY hope you aren't THAT stupid...  

Please stay on topic, if you want politic debate there is the CH forums or Whyzzat.

[Plaz]

having heard McCains statement that he wants to clean the US-economy from fraudulous managers, I was wondering if this spirit might influence the courts way of deciding the Amiga vs. Hyperion case

Too small of a fish to show up on the federal radar probably. But you know the investment portfolio of Pentti and others is probably taking a big hit. The finacial bottom line might change enough to affect the out come. And who knows, some newly placed governace rules might make a difference too.

Plaz

[Piru]

I just asked if this could be possible.

It is not possible.

Pentti Kouri (->Kouri-deals)

Or just think of the AInc(W)->ITEC->KMOS->MKOS->AInc(D) shell game...

As far as I know Pentti Kouri himself was never charged for the Kouri deals. Whether he did actually commit a crime or not is debatable. Apparently the investigation didn't find anything worthwhile against him, and thus he wasn't prosecuted.

As to the A Inc shell game, do you have any evidence that a) it was illegal or that b) Pentti Kouri was involved?

[persia]

Amiga Inc and Hyperion together aren't as large financially as your average grocery store and the amount of money Amiga Inc skipped out on is small potatoes.  Amiga Inc and Hyperion and their dispute over a few thousand dollars have zero effect on the current financial crisis which likely is in the trillions of dollars.  It's an issue of scale.  It's like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, it's not even that, it's the whehter you use the middle name(S) of a single passenger or their initial(s).

[number6]

@Piru

As to the A Inc shell game, do you have any evidence that a) it was illegal or that b) Pentti Kouri was involved?

I mentioned the quote from Judge Martinez:
here
After which there was a brief discussion regarding the connotation of the term "potentially troubling" in relation to the "shell game".

#6

[persia]

Troubling for Amiga Inc in the sense that it fits Hyperion's side of the story...

If the shell game was with an already insolvent Amiga Inc transferring assets to KMOS, then Hyperion win!

[arkanoid]

like Piru, I agree that the current economic crisis would not effect the case.

however, if the crisis escalates further and your entire economy collapses like a deck of cards (which is a strong possibility, re: Russia not so long ago, the great depression, etc) the case would become irrelevant.

the last thing you'll be worrying about is the release of OS4, when you can't afford a loaf of bread. And your Judges would more than likely be in the breadline with you. There'd be little incentive/will to recount the intricacies of the Hyp vs. AI fiasco under those social conditions - I can assure you.

But, of course, that's the worst case scenario..."it'll never happen" (aheeem)

[amigean]

I fully agree with Arkanoid,

The original poster so massively underestimates the potential implications of the financial crisis that it beggars belief.

Noone will care about Amigas if we end up living in caves!

[impactor]

Noone will care about Amigas if we end up living in caves!

No-one said we would.  :-?  :lol: