FS: Brand New (NOS) QuickPak Amiga 4000 Towers

[motorollin]

cv643d wrote:

redrumloa wrote:
we are talking in the dozens

Nice, according to Wikipedia, dozen is 12.

Dozens (plural) = some multiple of 12. Or 12x, where x is the number of dozens :-P

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moto

[HammerD]

early stocks used the same case as the ESCOM A4000T but there was a late production version that used a much better (larger with bigger power supply) case aimed at the video market. QuikPak is best remembered for their A4060 accelerator card, which is considered the best / fastest by some for its use of EDO RAM. There were plans for an onboard SCSI update for the card but I don't think it was ever released (you sent your card back for a hardware / software update).

Hi, just asking again, do you have any evidence that a "late production version" actually shipped using a much better case? I have never heard of this...

What I do know for a fact is:

Quikpak produced the A4000T motherboard and assembled them into the A4000T case approved by Amiga Technologies and sold into the North American market.  They sold complete A4000T systems to Amiga stores like Software Hut, with either a A3640 rev 3.2 card or with two different 060 cards.  The first 060 card was a large card commonly known as the Quikpak 4060T 68060 board with EDO ram slots and optional scsi.  The second was a smaller "desktop" version of the same board, named A4000-060 XP Rev. 2.

I have heard RUMOURS, but have no confirmation, that some systems shipped with Phase 5 060 cards.  Perhaps that was only in europe, or perhaps it is a rumour only.

Quikpak also DEMOED the A4060L and A5050 computers at a Toronto Amiga show.  I saw both with my own eyes, but I have no confirmation either of those machines actually shipped to end users.

The 4060L seemed to be an entirely new board but again, I don't really remember getting a peek at the board itself, but from the size of the square-ish case, I don't think it could have been an A4000T motherboard, nor an A1200 board.

The 5050L was, if I recall, a slightly different case with an A4000T motherboard and a siamese/bridgeboard inside, too.  Nothing really special there.  Perhaps that is the case you mean?

 

 

[cv643d]

motorollin wrote:
Dozens (plural) = some multiple of 12. Or 12x, where x is the number of dozens :-P

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moto

Ah...  that must mean not 100 but some multiple of 12.

Maxmimum ~8x12 = 96 A4000T  :-D
Minimum ~2x12 = 24 A4000T :-D

I have a some Uni points in statistics but i forgot it all :crazy:

otherwise we can calculate statistically how many A4000T there will be for sale :idea:  

[BuzzBrain]

@redrumloa

Hi.

I would like too buy one, if you can ship it too norway.


Cheers
Buzz

[motorollin]

cv643d wrote:
Ah...  that must mean not 100 but some multiple of 12.

Maxmimum ~8x12 = 96 A4000T  :-D
Minimum ~2x12 = 24 A4000T :-D

Your minimum figure is probably accurate, since red said "dozens", which means more than one dozen. But your maximum figure could be 2 <= x < infinity :-P

Edit - actually since I'm being pedantic, x >= 2 is a more efficient way of saying 2 <= x < infinity, since x >= 2 implies no upper limit ;-)

cv643d wrote:
otherwise we can calculate statistically how many A4000T there will be for sale :idea:  

No, I prefer the possibility that there is an infinite supply of (dozens of) them :-D

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moto

[cv643d]

lol @ moto  :lol:

[weirdami]

Regards,
Ltstanfo
Moderator AO
 

...with the least number of posts of any moderator. :-o

[ltstanfo]

Yep, likely the fewest posts (as moderator).  Much of what is being discussed on AO these recent years is common knowledge for those old enough to remember (no offense to anyone here... I am 42 and have used AMIGAs since 1986).

Inevitably similar if not same questions get asked over and over and I don't see any point in "reinventing the wheel", so to speak.  If I think I can contribute something, I will.  Otherwise, I only get involved if there is an admin issue.

Regards,
Ltstanfo
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weirdami wrote:

Regards,
Ltstanfo
Moderator AO
 

...with the least number of posts of any moderator. :-o

[ltstanfo]

HammerD wrote:

early stocks used the same case as the ESCOM A4000T but there was a late production version that used a much better (larger with bigger power supply) case aimed at the video market. QuikPak is best remembered for their A4060 accelerator card, which is considered the best / fastest by some for its use of EDO RAM. There were plans for an onboard SCSI update for the card but I don't think it was ever released (you sent your card back for a hardware / software update).

Hi, just asking again, do you have any evidence that a "late production version" actually shipped using a much better case? I have never heard of this...

HammerD,

I think we may indeed be talking past each other.  In no way am I trying to infer that a "super (QuikPak) A4000T" exists.  I as have stated previously, there was a late revision to the QuikPak assembled A4000Ts in which a different case was substituted for the horrible ESCOM/AI (Enlite) case.  The "new case" was taller, slightly wider and had a larger power supply.  It's intended market was specifically the video community and those who wanted more expansion room (in the case).  Like the ESCOM predecessors assembled / shipped by QuikPak, these late A4000Ts shipped with the QuickPak manufactured A4060(T) accelerator card.  Other than the above mentioned differences (in case and P/S) there is no difference in specs.. same mobo, keyboard, mouse, OS, etc...

I saw two of these cases at the last Gateway Amiga Show (St. Louis) at the (I believe) CompuQuick booth in the dealer's room.  I'm pretty sure if you ask some of the other old timers around the site they can confirm this version of the A4000T (Tigger comes to mind).

FYI I was at the last Toronto Amiga Show so we likely ran across each other.  The QuikPak luggables were demo units only (none shipped).

Just so everyone knows, my history with the world of Amiga is as follows:

Registered C= developer, still have all of my developer materials (AmigaMail, RKMs for both WB1.3 and 2.x).  I also still have some of the developer disks handed out at the (IIRC) last C= developer meeting in Long Beach.

For a brief time I was the designer and manufacturer of an aftermarket A3000 case which upgraded a standard A3000D into an A3000T.  The purpose was to provide a less expensive alternative to buying the (then) very expensive A3000T.  The case was sold through the local Amiga Dealer for about 2 years.  

Webmaster for Amiga Developer Network during the pre-Gateway days (originated by Wayne Hunt and Kermit Woodall of NovaDesign).  This was a developer related site that was in competition to be the next official developer support network.  Once Gateway and the Fleecy crowd got involved, they invented something called (IIRC) KOSH.  I eventually wound up being the (last) webmaster for the developer portion of that site as well.

We now return you to your regular scheduled banter.  :-D

Regards,
Ltstanfo
Moderator - AO  

[trip6]

Oh man I might just have to go all in and get one if they become available at a reasonable price.

[Karlos]

NOS A4000T?

Giggidy giggidy giggidy giggidy.... awww right!

Sorry, had a Quagmire moment at the mere thought of it.

[JimS]

Whether any of these shipped, I can't say.... but here's an ad for the Quickpak 4000T from a 1998 issue of Amazing Computing.


Quickpak 4000T ad

[ltstanfo]

Yep,

That looks similar to the tower I recall seeing (but I don't recall the LS120 super floppy).  I was not aware that advertising had been done for it.  Where did you find that?

Thanks for the scan!

Regards,
Ltstanfo
Moderator - AO

[JimS]

ltstanfo wrote:
That looks similar to the tower I recall seeing (but I don't recall the LS120 super floppy).  I was not aware that advertising had been done for it.  Where did you find that?

It came from the August 1998 issue of Amazing Computing magazine. As for where I found it.... it was in the same directory on my HD where the other 13+ GB of Amiga zine scans reside. ;-)

[ltstanfo]

JimS wrote:
It came from the August 1998 issue of Amazing Computing magazine. As for where I found it.... it was in the same directory on my HD where the other 13+ GB of Amiga zine scans reside. ;-)

Thanks for the info JimS!  As you likely remember, things were in quite a state of disarray back in the late 1990s with several camps trying to move the Amiga forward.  I was one of the QuikPak proponents back then and had a few conversations with Dave Zimbecki (sp?) who was their CEO.  They definitely had some great ideas and were trying to move forward but when Gateway won the Amiga remains, it killed QuikPak (that and the fact that ESCOM had issues with them).  Too bad really... for my money (at that time) they were the only ones who had a workable plan of action and were willing to discuss it in detail.


EDIT - YES, THE QUIKPAK PowerTower DID SHIP:

SoftwareHut sells QuikPak Power Tower
National Amiga shows QuikPak Power Tower (read Saturday overview).  THIS IS THE VENDOR I SAW...not CompuQuick.  Confirmation. :-D


Regards,
Ltstanfo

[Kin-Hell]

ROFL @ cv643d & Moto!  :lol:

I was catching up on the thread & was gunno answer like Moto did, before I even read his reply!
It just went on from there.......

Chuckles..... :-D