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Re: Indivision AGA Flicker Fixer/Scandoubler
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2008, 10:33:46 PM »
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Seems to depend on the board. I have two 1200 boards, one with a CBM Lisa and one with a HP. The HP one fits terribly. In fact it no longer stays on and I now have boot problems with it (blue screen) even when its not fitted.


    That's outrageous. If this thing broke your motherboard, then not only do you deserve your money back, but you also deserve an explanation as to why this thing wasn't tested with the HP Lisa.

    Hell, they should also pay to fix/replace your motherboard.
 

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Re: Indivision AGA Flicker Fixer/Scandoubler
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2008, 06:44:25 AM »
Does the Lisa chip version depend on the board revision? My board is 2B but I didn't check the chip - and I dare not try to pry the Indivision out. Mine seems to hold pretty snuggly but I've also experienced occasional blackouts usually, when there is stuff over the Indivision.
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Re: Indivision AGA Flicker Fixer/Scandoubler
« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2008, 01:58:30 PM »
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utrageous. If this thing broke your motherboard, then not only do you deserve your money back, but you also deserve an explanation as to why this thing wasn't tested with the HP Lisa.

    Hell, they should also pay to fix/replace your motherboard.


I'm keeping in mind its a 16 year old motherboard so stuff happens. Me and Jiffy might have just been unlucky. I'll await to see if anyone else has problems.

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Re: Indivision AGA Flicker Fixer/Scandoubler
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2008, 02:00:53 PM »
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Does the Lisa chip version depend on the board revision? My board is 2B but I didn't check the chip - and I dare not try to pry the Indivision out. Mine seems to old pretty snuggly but I've also experienced occasional blackouts usually, when there is stuff over the Indivision.


I dont know if the board revision dictates the lisa version but for info my 2B board is a HP Lisa and the 1D4 is a CBM one.

 

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Re: Indivision AGA Flicker Fixer/Scandoubler
« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2008, 10:11:12 AM »
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tribz wrote:
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Protek wrote:
Does the Lisa chip version depend on the board revision? My board is 2B but I didn't check the chip - and I dare not try to pry the Indivision out. Mine seems to old pretty snuggly but I've also experienced occasional blackouts usually, when there is stuff over the Indivision.


I dont know if the board revision dictates the lisa version but for info my 2B board is a HP Lisa and the 1D4 is a CBM one.



Mobo revision pics from BBOAH seem to support your remarks. It's very likely that my mobo has the HP chip. Didn't have this info prior I put the Indivision in place and don't dare to remove it anymore to check it.
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Re: Indivision AGA Flicker Fixer/Scandoubler
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2008, 11:37:07 AM »
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2) NO VGA MOUNT!


I also thought: WTF?! And it was not just an error, since both of my Indivision's missed it.

Especially since two weeks before I junked a lot of my old hardware (pc related). I could have used those mounts!?!??!? If I only knew.

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Re: Indivision AGA Flicker Fixer/Scandoubler
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2008, 01:25:26 PM »
Received mine yesterday, after reading all the posts here and at EAB it was almost with reluctance that I decided to install it tonight...

I'm happy to say that it popped in with only a tiny amount of swearing :-)

Biggest hassle was snipping the  @*!?¥: RF shield  :furious:
 
I have to admit I'm dissapointed with the lack of a VGA backing plate, it is after all a 1200 only SD/FF, how many different install points are there in a 1200?
Having said that, I'm over the moon with the quality of the display
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Re: Indivision AGA Flicker Fixer/Scandoubler
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2008, 02:06:52 PM »
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I have to admit I'm dissapointed with the lack of a VGA backing plate, it is after all a 1200 only SD/FF, how many different install points are there in a 1200?


I guess we have to fabricate one from an old graphics card. Too bad there isn't room for both VGA and SCSI.
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Re: Indivision AGA Flicker Fixer/Scandoubler
« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2008, 02:17:19 PM »
Can the Indivision be held onto the HP chip using a thin piece of double-sided tape?
 

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Re: Indivision AGA Flicker Fixer/Scandoubler
« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2008, 02:48:20 PM »
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Can the Indivision be held onto the HP chip using a thin piece of double-sided tape?


Depends on the strength of the tape. I did think ahout a bit of 3M tape but dont want to put something on that could cause problems if I need to remove it.
 

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Re: Indivision AGA Flicker Fixer/Scandoubler
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2008, 02:53:11 PM »
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Depends on the strength of the tape. I did think ahout a bit of 3M tape but dont want to put something on that could cause problems if I need to remove it.


My other thought was heat issues, but I've seen heatsinks attached using some kind of tape that seemed to conduct quite well.

Tape would have to be better than super glue! :-)
 

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Re: Indivision AGA Flicker Fixer/Scandoubler
« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2008, 05:29:14 PM »
Does the Indivision support piccaso/Cybergraphics?  'cos when I sell my A4T, I'm not looking forward to losing my high colour workbench. I guess what i'm asking is, can I have high colour backdrops/icons, and will art apps work in 24 bit?
And will they be faster than AGA?

I understand it isn't a graphics card, but the blurb mentions 24bit in all screenmodes.

confused,

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Re: Indivision AGA Flicker Fixer/Scandoubler
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2008, 05:44:53 PM »
It's a flickerfixer for all AGA-screen modes. Nothing more, nothing less. Every AGA-graphics mode remains exactly as fast as it was as it is still exacty the same screen mode. It doesn't add any extra modes.
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Re: Indivision AGA Flicker Fixer/Scandoubler
« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2008, 09:51:44 AM »
Then I'm a bit confused, as it says '24bit colour resolution in all screenmodes'.
 

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Re: Indivision AGA Flicker Fixer/Scandoubler
« Reply #44 from previous page: September 25, 2008, 10:26:33 AM »
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Then I'm a bit confused, as it says '24bit colour resolution in all screenmodes'.

Why? It can indeed display all colours the A1200 can reproduce. The A1200 has a 24 bit palette, but not all of them can be displayed at the same time. For example, you can have a 640x512 workbench with a maximum of 256 colours. Those colours are selected from a 24-bit palette. With older flickerfixers for the Amiga (1200), not all colours could be correctly reproduced on screen, as they had a maximum colour resolution of 12 or 16 bits (depending on model).

When using one of those older 16 bits flickerfixers, you could only display 65,536 different colours, even though the A1200 can display 16,777,216 different ones. The Indivision 1200 is able to correctly display all colours the A1200 has to offer, although (depending on the used screenmode) not all of them will be displayed simultaneously.

All in all, the Indivision 1200 is a 24 bit flickerfixer as it can display every single colour from the 24 bits AGA-palette.
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