Good News Is Here (OS 4.1&SAM440 amigakit.com)

[Andeda]

do you think they will restock or better said, get new stock of SAM440ep boards in, or do they only have the one batch??

I think that they are getting new boards in stock within the next few weeks. And why do i think so? well because amigakit and vesalia are getting their boards within a few weeks.
I sure hope that i'm right this time   :-)

[Flashlab]

Sjeesh all the complaining about price... If the complaining people worked in the hours they spent complaining, they would have a Sam already.

@Gebrochen,

You probably are Starke but for argument's sake let's say you're not. Starke was banned for good reason; he was an annoying troll. And trolls get sent to Amiga hell; Retrogeek's forum.

[ajlwalker]

@amigakit

Will I be able to buy a cheap KVM switch and use my existing ps/2 mouse and keyboard and SVGA TFT monitor with this board?

What else will I need for a functioning system?  CD/DVD drive, case and power supply.  Anything I have overlooked?

I'm pretty busy until the end of this year, but I'm very interested in this system.

[persia]

Because we live in the present. the SAM board looks expensive, if we lived in 1999 it would look cheap, but the point is that we all line near the end of 2008 and in 2008 the price v. performance of the SAM board is pretty bad.

It's a difficult decision, if you open up OS4 to run on standard equipment you drive the specialised hardware manufacturers out of business, if you don't open up OS4 it's cost remains high.  In other words the cost of a MacMini OS4 is driving Acube out of business...

[Hans_]

It's a difficult decision, if you open up OS4 to run on standard equipment you drive the specialised hardware manufacturers out of business, if you don't open up OS4 it's cost remains high.  In other words the cost of a MacMini OS4 is driving Acube out of business...

But it's ACube that was working on the MacMini port in the first place.

Hans

[Trev]

It's probably been said, but tying OS4 to specific hardware keeps everything under their control. If OS4 were an open platform (not open source, just open specifications), you'd see boot loaders, drivers, and other bits popping up for all sorts of platforms: Mac, Gamecube, PS3, Xbox 360, RS/6000, iSeries, etc. Platforms based on the PowerPC and its derivatives are plentiful. Amiga, Inc. legal issues aside, Hyperion is the only thing between OS4 and a solid, open future.

[matthey]

@Trev

It was worth saying again. Open specifications and many hardware platforms is what is needed to give the Amiga rebirth a chance. Look at Linux vs Win$lows and OpenOffice vs Office where there is free vs micro$oft and micro$oft still has 90% of the market share. Here we have expensive low spec Amiga hardware and immature but promising AmigaOS vs win$lows. The Amiga fails again after all of us old school computer users fade away and I'm one of the faithful that might buy a SAM and I like the PPC. There is no future in the current direction. Maybe AmigaOS bundled with Efika for under 200 Euros would attract enough users to matter.

[Gebrochen]

@ Andeda,
Hopefully your are right. YOu forgot to answer my other question, below:
(anywone?)

if they sold out of the motherboard 533mhz, that was selling for cheaper, how many did they sell in anyones opinion?? 50?? 100?? 200 before running out of stock on that item??

@ FlashLab:

Im just an engineer drafter wanting to use AMiga OS everyday after hours again, instead of Eye Candy Crap, and worse still, MS.

(who knows, you'll never know if I was starke in the past?)

@ All:

Anyone know what they are charging for VAT when they post outside of Europe??

and

Why dont many of us, onc having obtained SAM 440ep, simply also get an efika later.

COuld be best of both worlds??

 8-)

[Manu]

matthey wrote:
@Trev

 The Amiga fails again after all of us old school computer users fade away and I'm one of the faithful that might buy a SAM and I like the PPC. There is no future in the current direction. M

Darn wise words there, matthey. I feel the same. It's so shortsighted to not remove the hardware hurdle once and for all and start to grow.

It's a hobby yeah, but this time the hobby will die with us Amiga nuts who was there when they still were around. Once
the "legacy" (the people, us) in the community is gone then it's come to a definite stop. And then a port to x86 will do
no good.

[drHirudo]

@ All:

Anyone know what they are charging for VAT when they post outside of Europe??

If you live outside EU (European Union) you are not charged VAT. VAT for you is 0% and it shall be deducted from your order. What they charge when you import in the customs is a matter of the local laws.

[skurk]

AmigaKit:
Out of curiosity, any preorders yet?

Oh, who am I kidding.  I'll probably end up with one, eventually.  I just need to collect the funding without the wife noticing it.  If she finds out I'm spending £550++ on more hardware, she'll probably stab me to death with the Sam440 motherboard.

[xeron]

But hey - If you blew $1400 five years ago on an A1, then this is a good chance to show your dedication again, lol!

I didn't buy an AmigaOne to show dedication to anything. I bought it because I had the cash and i wanted one, and i never once regretted it.

Don't have the cash for a SAM, though. Although i now earn more, i also have more debt :-(

[xeron]

TheMagicM wrote:
yea but back in the day there was software available.

www.os4depot.net
strohmayer.org/sfs
www.digitaluniverse.org.uk

[Andeda]

skurk wrote:
AmigaKit:
Out of curiosity, any preorders yet?

Oh, who am I kidding.  I'll probably end up with one, eventually.  I just need to collect the funding without the wife noticing it.  If she finds out I'm spending £550++ on more hardware, she'll probably stab me to death with the Sam440 motherboard.

Sounds like we have the same problem, how do you spend 600e so that your wife dont know about it??

[Gebrochen]

@ drHindo,

Thank you, i didnt know that (your vat reply)

But cants see any problems with customs, they'll just check it for foreign creatures, get rid of them, then post it to me.

@ Skurk and @ Andeda:

haha, maybe go out for dinner a few times and she'll think the money went elsewhere when you buy her an INEXPENSIVE dress!  :-D

Was wondering, how many emails do you think have been sent to Acube, because I sent one last week, (roughly three days ago) with no reply yet.

Actually, I accidentally sent two.  :crazy:

haha.

Cheers.

[skurk]

Andeda wrote:
Sounds like we have the same problem, how do you spend 600e so that your wife dont know about it??

I have no idea yet.  Don't ask me about women, I'm having major problems understanding the one I live with.

I guess I will get the blessing if I sell some of the other computers, though.  Maybe the 4000/060/PIV setup will have to go. :C