Good News Is Here (OS 4.1&SAM440 amigakit.com)

[skurk]

Ouchie!  €556 for the cheapest model!  :boohoo:

History repeats itself..

[JoannaK]

skurk wrote:
Ouchie!  €556 for the cheapest model!  :boohoo:

History repeats itself..

And that 556€ is vesalia's price *without* Os4 ... And considering the fact that the ownership of OS4 is still open (As far as I know, there's been no agreement between Ainc&hyperion?) there's no quarantee the OS will ever officially available for this board.

Of course, it may well be there to be unlicensed OS sales (or warez) but that's not I'd like to see.

[_ThEcRoW]

Give to us the mac mini version!!!!!. I have money waiting for it. But it should be soon before i spend it in a thing readily available...

[hooligan]

corto wrote:
Great news ! New hardware was the missing thing for months/years.

To those that think it is too expensive and compare it to a cheap PC (nonsense !), what would be the good price ? Free ? Honestly, I think whatever the price, you would tell it's too expensive. Certainly not more than outdated classics that can break at any moment.

€200 + vat

[klx300r]

Do you realize that money that you spend on macmini is not invested again in Amiga.When all the PPC macs will be outdated who will make new hardware? apple? At least with SAM the money will be invested again in Amiga development.it´s expensive, yes, but is better give the money to a company that will develop Amiga products; if not, where you will get new Amiga products when all Amiga hardware companies bankrupt because nobody bought their products but bought products to another company that never will invest a penny on Amiga?

Very well said  :-D  :cheers:

[Phantom]

Very nice news indeed, but I will not buy it for the reasons described below:

1. Why only 512MB max? I think that is the weakest point of SAM440ep. I don't like these limitations.

2. Why ONE PCI Slot? AmigaOS 4.1 needs an ATI Radeon 9250 128MB, as being recommended. Of course the on board ATI Mobility 64MB is not of any use then. So I'm full with PCI slots. I need another PCI slot for my Netgear Wireless PCI card, where I can put it then? I'm not telling about a SoundBlaster card either, because I want to tell you only the stuff that I really need.

For me SAM440 is a limited motherboard (like Efika). I used to have non-limited motherboards, at least not with max 512MB of RAM or just one PCI slot.

What you will do if you want to expand it then? You will buy the new SAM board in the future which will have 2GB max RAM and 3 PCI Slots? :-o

[amigakit]

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[Hans_]

So we have two different groups of people complaining: those that think that it's too expensive, and those that wish that the specifications were higher, meaning even more expensive.

BTW, do you really think that this is the only target hardware under development? I strongly doubt it. My expectation would be that Moana is being developed further as we discuss this. Having said that, I would recommend that people who want Amiga OS 4.1 don't wait around for ports to other hardware; we have no idea when those will happen. Also, it's not helpful for development if no-one buys because they're all waiting for the next thing.

Hans

[Painkiller]

"Recommended graphics card: Radeon 9250"

this seems pretty odd as M9 is basicly same product family with same DX compability.   :-?

[persia]

Quite simply it's economics, a 1.25 GHz G4 MacMini with 512 MB RAM (expandable to 2 GB), video and hard drive will run less than £165/€210/300 dollars.  far less than just the motherboard we are talking about.  And, and, and we are talking about a motherboard that doesn't even have a G3 and runs at half the speed.

Do I want to support people who make Amiga things?  Yes, but coouldn't they get in the same scale of magnitude of a used G4 MacMini?

[jorkany]

It's not so easy for everyone to cough up 800-900$ for a new system that doesn't yet replace my PC I got to have at home.

So anybody feel the same ?

I hear ya, brutha! As it just so happens, I am looking to buy a new computer soon, two actually. One will be a new Mac Mini for about $800, which for the price completely blows the SAM400 out of the water in terms of speed and functionality. For Amiga nostalgia there's UAE, or I can spend $15 at the local flea market and pick up the real item.

But hey - If you blew $1400 five years ago on an A1, then this is a good chance to show your dedication again, lol!

[Hans_]

persia wrote:
Quite simply it's economics, a 1.25 GHz G4 MacMini with 512 MB RAM (expandable to 2 GB), video and hard drive will run less than £165/€210/300 dollars.  far less than just the motherboard we are talking about.  And, and, and we are talking about a motherboard that doesn't even have a G3 and runs at half the speed.

Do I want to support people who make Amiga things?  Yes, but coouldn't they get in the same scale of magnitude of a used G4 MacMini?

If you can organize enough buyers so that they can get the components/manufacturing at a low enough cost to make this happen, sure. You only need to find one million buyers.

Hans

[TheMagicM]

@jorkany:

yea, I just bought my son a Core2Duo Mac Mini from Best Buy for $600.  I wouldnt dare spend that kind of money on any Amiga motherboard (MorphOS support or not).  I dont have any way to justify spending that.  Can I spend the $? You bet.. no problems with the wife on that either.  I just dont see a valid reason.

I would rather pre-pay for a MorphOS 3 registration for the MacMini (Did you get that Piru? itix?  yea, no joking here) :-)

[Varthall]

jorkany wrote:

But hey - If you blew $1400 five years ago on an A1, then this is a good chance to show your dedication again, lol!

I believe that Sam is more geared toward those that don't own any HW supported by OS4.1, rather than those that already own an A1.

Varthall

[TheGoose]

$800.00. !@#!@$$!^&

We really need some kind of bundle deal or something in the US. Our money is like no good anywhere. How about:

America's in the Crapper Super Sale (US loosers only):

SAM440 & AOS4.0 - $650.00

or

SAM440 & 512 MB RAM $650.00

 :-D  :idea:  :crazy:

[theformula]

Anybody body know if u can dual boot so you have a choice of ubuntu and os 4.1?