Good News Is Here (OS 4.1&SAM440 amigakit.com)

[persia]

PCI Video Toaster

trekiej wrote:
A PCI version of the Video Toaster would be a cool addition.
It would almost be like the good ole days.

[corto]

Great news ! New hardware was the missing thing for months/years.

To those that think it is too expensive and compare it to a cheap PC (nonsense !), what would be the good price ? Free ? Honestly, I think whatever the price, you would tell it's too expensive. Certainly not more than outdated classics that can break at any moment.

With the Sam440, you have a nice board, low consumption, Radeon gfx chip, SATA, ... Hey guys, this is the opportunity to get a new Amiga machine !

Since the day I bought my Pegasos (and later my AmigaOne), I've never had regrets thinking about my A1200-060. New hardware, modernized OS, new apps, hardware ports to connect standard devices, ... all that keeping the Amiga spirit and fun !

[Manu]

corto wrote:
Great news ! New hardware was the missing thing for months/years.

To those that think it is too expensive and compare it to a cheap PC (nonsense !), what would be the good price ? Free ? Honestly, I think whatever the price, you would tell it's too expensive. Certainly not more than outdated classics that can break at any moment.

Well it isn't nonsense. It's 15 years since a got myself
a new Amiga and it's 10 years since I stopped using them.
I still love running UAE and look back at the old days, and
I consider myself a potential "new" user.
But I'm also middle
aged, got wife and kids and lot of places to put money into.
Like somebodey else said you can't make xxx bucks disappear
in front of your wife. :-) Well that is just so true.

It's not so easy for everyone to cough up 800-900$ for a new
system that doesn't yet replace my PC I got to have at home.

So anybody feel the same ?

[gaula92]

Yes I DO. Please GIVE US AMIGA OS 4.X for our G4 MAC MINIS! Some of us ALREADY HAVE THE HARDWARE! We WILL buy an AMIGA OS version over 100 Euros if you want, but I for one WON'T PAY for a hardware I ALREADY OWN!

Moana project was for real, as A LOT of us have seen in our own computers...SO GIVE US Amiga OS and save those SAM440s FOR THE GOOD AMIGA USERS who DON'T HAVE a Mini, for god's shake!  

[cv643d]

Dear Mr Amigakit:

Do you know/can you tell us if the 667MHz/OS4.1 OEM combo will cost a little bit less than purchasing mobo + 4.1 separately?

Thanks!

[Fransexy_]

gaula92 wrote:
Yes I DO. Please GIVE US AMIGA OS 4.X for our G4 MAC MINIS! Some of us ALREADY HAVE THE HARDWARE! We WILL buy an AMIGA OS version over 100 Euros if you want, but I for one WON'T PAY for a hardware I ALREADY OWN!

Moana project was for real, as A LOT of us have seen in our own computers...SO GIVE US Amiga OS and save those SAM440s FOR THE GOOD AMIGA USERS who DON'T HAVE a Mini, for god's shake!  

Do you realize that money that you spend on macmini is not invested again in Amiga.When all the PPC macs will be outdated who will make new hardware? apple? At least with SAM the money will be invested again in Amiga development.it´s expensive, yes, but is better give the money to a company that will develop Amiga products; if not, where you will get new Amiga products when all Amiga hardware companies bankrupt because nobody bought their products but bought products to another company that never will invest a penny on Amiga?

[tonyyeb]

Very true Fransexy_. Plus Apple now no longer use PPC so what is made is the lot. No more. We need new hardware. This is a start. If Hyperion can make OS4 for SAM then they can make it for a lot of PPC type hardware. This is just the start IMO.

[alexh]

I clicked on the link and saw £99.99 and thought DAMN that's a good price!

And then I fell off my chair as I realised that was the cost of just OS4.1 and the hardware was an additional £440 :-)

[itix]

Do you realize that money that you spend on macmini is not invested again in Amiga.When all the PPC macs will be outdated who will make new hardware? apple? At least with SAM the money will be invested again in Amiga development.it´s expensive, yes, but is better give the money to a company that will develop Amiga products; if not, where you will get new Amiga products when all Amiga hardware companies bankrupt because nobody bought their products but bought products to another company that never will invest a penny on Amiga?

It didnt work with Commodore, it didnt work with Phase5, it didnt work with Amiga magazines, it didnt work with Eyetech either. Neither it will not work with Genesi or Acube. Now matter how much money Amiga users throw away it is never enough to keep companies running.

The Amiga market is inexistant and both Genesi and Acube and everyone else must find other markets to keep company running.

[Manu]

itix wrote:

*snip*

It didnt work with Commodore, it didnt work with Phase5, it didnt work with Amiga magazines, it didnt work with Eyetech either. Neither it will not work with Genesi or Acube. Now matter how much money Amiga users throw away it is never enough to keep companies running.

The Amiga market is inexistant and both Genesi and Acube and everyone else must find other markets to keep company running.

Very true. So skip PPC dependancy. Sandbox the legacy and
move along with what hardware is out there. The sooner
the better.

[Plaz]

PCI Video Toaster

Now if Newtek would open source the code for the PCI version as they did for the classic toaster....http://openvideotoaster.org/... you might have some thing there.

Plaz

[Plaz]

@Manu

So anybody feel the same ?

Unfortunately, yes. Family expenses have grown conciderably since the last time new Amiga boards were available and I have a couple other small hobbies that need funds. It takes alot longer to save up that much $$$ without hurting the budget. Doesn't mean I won't try though. :-)

Plaz

[ck007]

Just as the original reason to develop OS4 on the PPC platform was to stay true to those who shelled out for Cyberstorm and Blizzard cards??? (There's only a handful of these PPC cards in existence!)

What a stupid idea that was - Hyperion continuing to invest in a platform that mainstream manufacturers have moved away from.  

The way I see it, ACube and the Amiga market are way too small to produce these boards in large quantities at a resonable cost.  This is preventing the Amiga from becoming a cost-effective platform.

If anyone at Hyperion had an ounce of business sense, they would adopt the hardware platform that is able to:

 a) run their software - OS4 has a small footprint and x86 is more than capable for the task
 b) put the Amiga within reach of the masses

If Hyperion pick a few decent models of x86 motherboards (of various spec) and bundle their software with those, then they will be able to support the product.

At the end of the day, it's Hyperion who needs to survive for the Amiga to survive - not ACube.

Fransexy_ wrote:
Do you realize that money that you spend on macmini is not invested again in Amiga.When all the PPC macs will be outdated who will make new hardware? apple? At least with SAM the money will be invested again in Amiga development.it´s expensive, yes, but is better give the money to a company that will develop Amiga products; if not, where you will get new Amiga products when all Amiga hardware companies bankrupt because nobody bought their products but bought products to another company that never will invest a penny on Amiga?

[adonay]

They are so cheap i think i will buy 3  :-D  . No seriously i to have expenses as well 2 cars and 2 housepayments but i belive i can still put away enugh for the Acube, i usually spend 4 times more than that on my new X86 boxes. That is if the price is close to 900 - 1000$

[djbase]

Vesalia takes pre-orders for the Sam440ep including AmigaOS4.1

[skurk]

Ouchie!  €556 for the cheapest model!  :boohoo:

History repeats itself..