Warp Up And Power Up Problems

[CU_AMiGA]

Hello!

I own an Amiga 1200 with a Blizzard PPC 160/060@50mhz. Can anyone tell me how to set up Warp Up properly? Everytime i boot up and the Workbench screen comes up i get some stupid "termination" window. I know what this is about, Warp Up and Power Up running parrallel. I have heard of running Power Up emu under Warp Up (using BlizzFix), but how do you set it all up?

[Allen]

How I did it...use BlizKick.

This is a ROM kicker which you can set up to run modules...one of which is BlizFix040 - or something...this removes the old 68040/060 library from memory - which IIRC is put there by the ROM in the Blizzard.  This is what is giving you grief.

It did take quite a lot of messing around to get this to work but just read and re-read the instructions on getting BlizKick to work and you'll get there.

HTH

Allen

[lempkee]

i need a whole lot more info before i can tell you , what os are you running and what gfx card etc.

beyond that...

getting wos to work on my setup required me to update the rom ...
(old one wasnt mediator compatible)

cheers

[Thomas]

To remove the termination requester you need to remove ppc.library from memory before WarpUP is started. This can either be done by running BPPCfix in the startup-sequence or by adding the patch to BlizKick.

Get BPPCfix (and the ppc.lib emulation) from here: http://devnull.owl.de/~frank/ppcemu_e.html

Get BlizKick from Aminet: http://www.aminet.net/aminet.cgi?string=blizkick

Well, you can also set the Termination variable to 2, but then the ppc.lib emulation does no longer run.

Bye,
Thomas

[CU_AMiGA]

Hi everyone,

Many thanks for the replies and advice. Sorry, i forgot to mention that i have Amiga OS 3.9 and have a Blizzardvision with CybergrahX 4.2! I have also got Warp OS 4 and Warp 3D on that Wipeout 2097 CD, and i also have Warp OS 5 on Amiga OS 3.9.  I have already tried using BPPCfix, but i cant seem to get it right. (The line i use is: BPPCfix Install 040 Reboot - is this right?). And i also installed the ppc lib emu as well.

But when i do this, the termination window no longer appears, but i either get the Power Up stuff to work and not the Warp stuff, or i get the Warp stuff to work but not the Power Up stuff. (ie: i try to run Wipeout 2097, but a requester comes up saying 'unable to open file .tmg' or something.) And after that, the system grinds to a sniverling halt! Having said that, when i reinstall the Warp libs, without resetting, the Warp stuff and the Power Up stuff seem to work okay!

I have also tried the termination settings, but i dont really no what i am doing.

Well anyway, thats enough blabbering, i haven't yet tried BlizKick yet, so i will download that and have another bash!

Thanks!

[lempkee]

should be the same with and witout blizkick aslong as you have bppcfix installed..

this is a "madmatt" call really.. i will message him and let him help you

cheers

[Mad-Matt]

Once you get blizzkick installed, install the BPPCFix module and any others you wish to utilise, you do not require the bppcfix040 module or require a seperate bppc fix command.  It is normal for blizzkick to reboot once its done its stuff.

Make sure the latest WarpOS5 is installed and in its settings set Terminator to "0" andenable "NOPatch".

Get the latest PUPEmu lib from link below and install it to libs.

http://devnull.owl.de/~frank/ppcemu.html

you do not require the beta wos lib or the bppcfix command. I must stress again you must use latest WarpOS and not this beta lib for full working functionality.

In The frogger Archive (Or at least it used to be) theres a command called "InstallPPCLib" which you can put anywhere in your startup sequence and in my opinion is the best command of its type as other cause all sorts of weird troubles.

Hopefully the above has got you mostly sorted just keep posting if not

[CU_AMiGA]

Many thanks for the replies!
As i said, i will have a bash at it tonight and let you know how i get on. I will download the necessary files and that and follow the instructions.

[Allen]

That's what I meant!

Sorry for the confusion!  Its been a long time since I messed with an Amiga startup script...or even turned a real Amiga on.

Hope you have sorted it even with my mad ramblings confuddling the solution

Although I am pretty sure I couldn't get it to work without using the 040 module - memory is fading tho'

Allen

[CU_AMiGA]

Hi everyone, (again)

I had a go at it this morning, but again no luck. I have BlizzKick, PPClibs and BPPCFix, but i cant get them to work. (BPPCFix does reboot the machine though).

What instruction would i use for BlizzKick and BPPCFix? I currently use BPPCFix Install 040 Reboot, but i dont seem to get any success. Either one or the other works, but not both of the Warp and Power Up stuff. :-(

As for Warp Up, i have version 5 on Amiga OS 3.9 and Warp Up 4 on Wipeout CD, are they good enough, or are they considered as beta?

What about this update on Aminet:-

http://www.aminet.net/biz/haage/WarpUP_V51Upd.readme

My specs are:

Amiga 1200T
Blizzard PPC 160/060@50mhz
Blizzardvision
Amiga OS 3.9
3.1 ROM
128meg Fast Ram

I will have another go at it and see if i followed the instructions/advice correctly, but i am going through hell here!  :evil:

[Thomas]

If WarpUP programs run without the termination requester, the first hurdle is taken.

Now check that you installed the emulation ppc.library instead of the original one. In the archive there should also be a program called LoadLib or something like that. You should copy the program to C: and add the line LoadLib libs:ppc.library into your user-startup. After that PowerUp-Programs can be run from Workbench and from the Shell, without having to run them manually with RunELF.

Bye,
Thomas

[Framiga]

by Thomas on 2003/8/27 13:40:58

To remove the termination requester you need to remove ppc.library from memory before WarpUP is started. This can either be done by running BPPCfix in the startup-sequence or by adding the patch to BlizKick.

Well, you can also set the Termination variable to 2, but then the ppc.lib emulation does no longer run.

Read carefully WarpUP doc. (PoweuUpEmu/README)

Note for the last flasRrom update for BlizzardPPC:

BLIZZARD PPC NOTES
   
You will get some problems on a BPPC with a new flash ROM, because
the original ppc.library is a resident module and will be initialized during reset.

The only chance is to use BPPCFix (should be included in the WarpOS V4 distribution) and install another resident module, which
removes the ppc.library from the system before it can initialize itself. Refer to INSTALLATION for further informations.

Afterwards you have a 'clean' system, which allows you to start WarpOS without using a Terminator (as on a CSPPC). Please use a
Terminator setting of '1' or '0'. WarpOS will not work with the emulation in terminator-mode '2'.

I suppose that if you own a Mediator, you have installed the last flashRom update.

Ciao

[Thomas]

What is the difference from what I wrote ?

Bye,
Thomas

[CU_AMiGA]

Thomas wrote:

If WarpUP programs run without the termination requester, the first hurdle is taken.

Problem is though, that i can get that far, but Warp OS dont work properly, the ppc emu works perfectly.

ie: on Wipeout, the settings screen loads up but i cant get the screen settings to work/come up. But if i reinstall Warp without rebooting, it seems to work, - both of them!

Anyhow, i have now reinstalled Amiga OS 3.9, and am about install Warp os 5.1 update off aminet. But when the options come up:

Warp OS 5
Power Up compatible version 7

Which one of them should i choose?

[lempkee]

warpos 5 is what you choose , then forget PUP for a while.

boot the system up (in working WOS)then you put the ppc.library up in Libs: and open blizkick with bppcfix.

before you reboot now , go to sys:prefs/warpos   and set terminators to what madmatt said.

hope that helps, also dont go crazy over pup, alot of the pup stuff doesnt even work .
but some stuff works, so i know pup is up