Why would I move to MorphOS?

[tonyyeb]

Hi all

I don't want this thread to be full of flames about MorphOS, i'm just looking for some facts.

After reading Piru's thread about the progress of porting MorphOS to a Mac Mini it got me more interested in MorphOS. But as I don't have the hardware to test (would love a Mac Mini but not fond of OSX) I would like reasons to / not to choose it.

* What is the level of Amiga OS3.1 support?
* Can it run WHDLoad style games? (be gentle with me here!)
* What is the Native application support like? (Office type, Web browser etc...)
* Is it quicker than say 3.1 on an unaccelerated A1200?

Thanks in advance!

[A1260]

they are brainwashing you with morphos news all the time around here, so its no strange that you ask this question. i also read piru's thread, there was no release date. it was more like when its done, that means 5 years at least if we are going to get it at all. the minimac is already outdated by today's standard and they will be even more outdated when 5 years have gone. i can say this you can safely sit on your fence some more, just wait for november and see how the hyperion/amiga inc case goes. if that goes well you will actually have a os and hw to buy. if not sit on your fence some more  :-)

[djbase]

* What is the level of Amiga OS3.1 support?

It is OS3.1 API compatible

* Can it run WHDLoad style games? (be gentle with me here!)

No, that would require UAE because EFIKA, Pegasos or Mac Mini has no Amiga Custom chips for old games if they don't run on graphic card.

* What is the Native application support like? (Office type, Web browser etc...)

There is Papyrus, Sputnik and some other stuff like MUI4, CyberGraphX 5, Poseidon 4,...

* Is it quicker than say 3.1 on an unaccelerated A1200?

Compared to what hardware? EFIKA, Pegasos, Mac Mini?

[Jeckel]

* What is the level of Amiga OS3.1 support?

Quite perfect.
Softwares like IBrowse, Directory Opus 4, AmiTradeCenter, Wordworth, Photogenics, TVPaint, Wipeout, etc. just work fine (and much faster than on a real 060/CGFX Amiga).

* Can it run WHDLoad style games? (be gentle with me here!)

Not directly, but e-uae works fine with it.

* What is the Native application support like? (Office type, Web browser etc...)

Showgirl (advanced picture viewer), Sputnik (browser), AmIRC (native version), AmiNetRadio (partially native), etc. lot of native application for most operations.

I don't know about AmigaOS 4, but MorphOS is just a great AmigaOS you can use for every day computing.

[hooligan]

just wait for november and see how the hyperion/amiga inc case goes. if that goes well you will actually have a os and hw to buy

Good one :lol:

Wait months to see if the courtcase is settled and get a chance to buy an expensive pocketcalculator(Sam)? Why not buy existing pocketcalculator (Efika) now and start enjoying the OS immediately.

[_ThEcRoW]

@a1260

At least the hardware on the mini is more reliable and powerful than the A1.

[pVC]

* What is the level of Amiga OS3.1 support?

Very good with non hardware hitting programs. You can even run WB3.x instead of the Ambient, if you want to have classic Amiga setup instead of more advanced system

* Can it run WHDLoad style games? (be gentle with me here!)

Only if you run MorphOS on real Amiga where original chipsets are available. Otherwise old hw-hitting games must be ran with UAE. But newer gfx-card and AHI supporting Amiga games work usually just fine.

* What is the Native application support like? (Office type, Web browser etc...)

There's pretty good native application support on smaller apps, but with some application types you still need to use Amiga programs. In practise you can't see much difference are you running native application or Amiga application. For native web browsing there is Sputnik, which has modern engine... and Papyrus Office is native office kit, but I'm not sure about it's future development. I'd say one of the most important native application is mplayer. It's working very well and with good support. That's one thing real Amigas can't do.

* Is it quicker than say 3.1 on an unaccelerated A1200?

Uhm... How it couldn't be faster?-) If you run same app on A1200 or on MorphOS, there's just ridiculous big speed difference Only thing where classic Amiga can be faster is booting time, but that's when classic Amiga doesn't have any patches etc ran on startup. MorphOS itself boots in couple of seconds, but OpenFirmware things take some time in the beginning.

[zylesea]

@ tonyyeb

Well it was said several times already, but I like to repeat it, too.

MorphOS has a very high compatibility to many 68k Amiga applications. I even run some apps from the AmigaOS 1.x days.
But whenever a software hitsthe Amiga custom chipset directly it'll fail. For those apps there's UAE available.
Anyway, most apps I use are MorphOS native. The setup is much, much more powerful for everyday use than all WinUAE setups or 68k based Amigas.
The OS3.1 is limited, the cpu power of original 68k processors is ridiculous.
On the Pegasos MorphOS is blazing fast, on the Efika it is much more slow, mostly due to the slow ide interface (still faster than the C= Amiga hdd controllers).
Maybe you find http://via.i-networx.de/EN/bench_en.html useful, it's a brief speed and power consuption  comparision between MorphOS, 68k AOS and WinUAE.

[TheMagicM]

some folks never drop the "red vs. blue" war.  sigh.  

MorphOS is an excellent OS.  I'm selling my EFIKA due to lack of time/interest.  Not just in MOS but in the Amiga in general, but thats a different story.

In my experience MorphOS runs great, even on my EFIKA.  As for your "speed" question.. The EFIKA whips the "you know what" out of any Amiga (PPC even), just to give you an idea.

If you're not on the MOS mailing list, all seems quiet, but behind the scenes there's alot of debugging/work going on.  Thats a great sign and shows the devotion the developers have to MOS.  Piru's pic of MOS3 on the Mac Mini was just an example of how versatile the MOS Devel team is.  MOS on Mac Mini will happen, its just a matter of time.  You cant work on MOS2 and 3 at the same time you know.  :-)

[soviet]

I have bought and efika, and installed morphos 2.0.
It's really unesatable have no sound, even moving windows around can get you a frezze, the worst is to register a unfinished, inestable and soundless os you have to pay 130 euros including.
The old amiga 4000 i use everyday is much stable than morphos even using os 3.9 i don't have a ppc.
They even refuse to discount the VAT in a export.
I'm don't plan to register until i have sound and don't get more random freezes

[weirdami]

some folks never drop the "red vs. blue" war. sigh.

there's no reason to.

[zyphoid]

morph is damn nice cant wait till the update.

negs- lockup no sound efika ram limitation sputnik eats it     so does mame

pos+
1)Just about all apps without the native support
2) emulation I guess.
3)supports most aos applications
i run makecd, finalwriter mame, mplayer, vlc mame, sputnik,wookiechat, oh yea this!http://www.siniscope.com/
4) it's superfast!

 I've been blue now for 2mnts and have adjusted well thank you very much from waiting 2more weeks!!
New toy, new software more fun!!
oh and mac mini port is much closer! :-D  :-D

[itix]

weirdami wrote:

some folks never drop the "red vs. blue" war. sigh.

there's no reason to.

Why?

[A1260]

I have bought and efika, and installed morphos 2.0.
It's really unesatable have no sound, even moving windows around can get you a frezze, the worst is to register a unfinished, inestable and soundless os you have to pay 130 euros including.
The old amiga 4000 i use everyday is much stable than morphos even using os 3.9 i don't have a ppc.
They even refuse to discount the VAT in a export.
I'm don't plan to register until i have sound and don't get more random freezes

thanks for saying it like it is. i didnt dare to say it my self because i was attacked earlier this month, by these morphos trolls that hang around here at a.org.

[soviet]

I'ts seems that a lot of people is reality blind or something, ignoring this problems.