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Re: Full format or fast format?
« Reply #14 from previous page: August 25, 2008, 01:11:56 PM »
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The Drive electronics deals with the complexities of structure. All the OS needs to do is put the filesystem structures in place :-)


I know, but the OP is putting an old PC formatted drive into an Amiga for the first time in it's life  ... Possible unknown errors, bad sectors, etc. is not a pleasant scenario but you cannot discount the possibility they exist.

Would you trust the drive to be 100% and just partition and quick format it ad hoc, of course not ... You'd partition it and do a full format in case there are any hidden problems that might manifest themselves during the process.

Once the drive has been passed as fully working, you'd be more than happy to quick format it in the future  :-)

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Re: Full format or fast format?
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2008, 01:42:04 PM »
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The Drive electronics deals with the complexities of structure. All the OS needs to do is put the filesystem structures in place :-)


I know, but the OP is putting an old PC formatted drive into an Amiga for the first time in it's life  ... Possible unknown errors, bad sectors, etc. is not a pleasant scenario but you cannot discount the possibility they exist.

Would you trust the drive to be 100% and just partition and quick format it ad hoc, of course not ... You'd partition it and do a full format in case there are any hidden problems that might manifest themselves during the process.

Once the drive has been passed as fully working, you'd be more than happy to quick format it in the future  :-)

/engage dodgy market seller mode

Ere guv ... I got this ere PC drive, 100% workin' (won't mention the bad sectors as i need shot of it - he won't mind, it's only going to be quick formatted so they won't show up)  ... A Lady Godiva (5GBP) to you mate!

/exit dodgy market seller mode

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Not a good idea...

Quick Format it, THEN run a disk check.

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Re: Full format or fast format?
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2008, 01:46:05 PM »
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May as well just full format the thing in the first place :lol:
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Re: Full format or fast format?
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2008, 01:51:07 PM »
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May as well just full format the thing in the first place :lol:


Then the Format will just fail (possibly after you've waited a few hours, if it's a Terabyte drive!)... if you run a disk check the bad sectors can be marked.

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Re: Full format or fast format?
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2008, 01:51:08 PM »
Often format doesn't actually check if the writing succeeded (that is it doesn't read back the data and verify it). Obviously if the disk is b0rken enough for the write to fail with an error, that will be caught.
 

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Re: Full format or fast format?
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2008, 01:55:45 PM »
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Then the Format will just fail (possibly after you've waited a few hours, if it's a Terabyte drive!)... if you run a disk check the bad sectors can be marked.


It's an old 4GB PC drive mate, not one of these terabyte ones :lol:

When migrating a drive between different systems, I take the stand that it's best to be safe than sorry. I'd rather waste an hour or so verifying the drive is okay, but that's just me  :-)
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Re: Full format or fast format?
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2008, 05:04:21 PM »
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When migrating a drive between different systems, I take the stand that it's best to be safe than sorry. I'd rather waste an hour or so verifying the drive is okay, but that's just me  

Yup, me too...

Have a poke around to see what options are available for the formatter before you let it loose (Probably under shell), that way you can turn on any hidden verify features (I'm sure I formatted a HDD once and I set it so that once it had formatted a block, it verified it - Sure enough bad sectors showed up...)

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or even cleaning a hard drive because you are selling or donating your computer

Muhahaha...Yep...Some people just don't think to wipe their HDD before they sell it on... (Just as well, the Patriot PC I bought is a real bugger to get drivers for...)

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engage dodgy market seller mode

I've been done before...Forked out for drives that just clicked and rattled... :madashell: Problem is, not many places sell small 2.5" drives these days (Except Amigakit ;-) )

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