Stop buying from ELBOX ! ? ! ?

[zyphoid]

Rob wrote:
@zyphoid

Elbox do not reply to sharkppc dragon ques...I tried!

I sent a support request + some questions about SharkPPC and Dragon boards to Elbox on the 29th of July.  I got a response on the 30th including answer regarding SharkPPC and Dragon.

@Rob

 you knew this was coming..And what did it say!?  :-D

[Nlandas]

Rob wrote:
@zyphoid

Elbox do not reply to sharkppc dragon ques...I tried!

I sent a support request + some questions about SharkPPC and Dragon boards to Elbox on the 29th of July.  I got a response on the 30th including answer regarding SharkPPC and Dragon.

Please do share then. My email about the Shark went unanswered. What was the response?

[kreciu]

Yea, stop buying everything. Than everybody will be doing something for you, for free and kiss you for good buy.

[trip6]

You can't ask any questions to ELBOX, their sales mailbox is currently full....

[Darrin]

trip6 wrote:
You can't ask any questions to ELBOX, their sales mailbox is currently full....

Which just shows the huge interest in the Shark and Dragon!   :-D

[pVC]

I couldn't care less about SharkPPC anymore. I want to run next generation OS'es on completely new hardware instead of kludgy hacked up classic Amiga.

And my MediatorZIV on my a1200 does what it's supposed to do. I got cheap and fast graphics card to replace dog slow Zorro2 gfx-card I had earlier. I got cheap network card, which is way faster than any Zorro-NIC I've tried. And TV-card cheaply too. And I don't think my Spider2 was that expensive... OK, same hardware could be little cheaper from PC shop, but it was still much more affordable than any other USB solution for my Amiga. It didn't kill me to pay it when I aldready had Mediator setup. I'd probably be without any USB on my Amiga if it wouldn't be there.

I don't like Elbox's attitude always etc, but thing would be much worse with classic Amigas without them. And there's always been vapourware everywhere. Shouldn't you, as amigans, have already learnt that don't expect anything to really come until you actually hold it? There's hundreds of similar things which never appeared. Don't get too passionate until they're really selling. In any case Elbox has given more life for classic Amigas with real products and I really don't want them to quit, even if some things could change BTW. where would you buy PCI-bus nowadays if not from Elbox? I'm sure most of the people are wise enough not to buy it now just for the SharkPPC.

[kreciu]

Only reason why this kind of topic appear is that people are impatient. In "Amiga world" we need to wait, sometimes years.

I remember the time when Mediator was announced for the first time...

People were writing that photos submitted by Elbox to "painted pictures", the same was with FastATA...that this is not true etc. "Hellooooo" . Hands up who is using Mediator and FastATA? And can buy them TODAY.

Where is G-rex, Prometheus, Zorro II/III for A1200. A4000 are VERY rare and expensive. A1200 are everywhere even today.

BTW. Voodoo on Elbox web site is expensive (other PC stuff to). Go to Amigakit.com and see how "cheap" is it? Why?

Because you pay for your impatience and for this that this Voodoo from their shop will work 100% with Mediator. I bought on Ebay (Elbox support SHOWED me the auction with Voodoo!! yes it's true) for like $17.

I'm done. This topics are completely non productive. It's like a spam or trolling. No reply.

[twizzle]

i use the mediator 1200sx and a fast ata since they were first made  :-)

and if it wasnt for elbox making them,then i would not have a fast ethernet card or a voodoo3 card or a sound card
nor would i be able to have dvd + cd+rw`s ata drives etc
so i applaude elbox for producing these products
to a limited market.

thats my 2ps worth

[alexh]

Dandy wrote:

rkauer wrote:
vapourware

Ostensibly they're still waiting for the final A1-Os4-version to become available on CD in the stores...

Yeah right! Not. They announced something they could never deliver and fortunately the delays on AOS4 helped cover it up.

[alexh]

twizzle wrote:
If it wasn't for Elbox I would not be able to have dvd + cd+rw`s ata drives etc

Eh? DVD and CD-RW works without Elbox products.

[twizzle]

@alexh

of course they work  :-D

i like elbox products :-)

[Akiko]

Stop buying from ELBOX ! ? ! ?

NO!  :-P

[amiga_3k]

Stopping buying is not much of an encouragement to a company to continue working for a certain niche in the market. Sure, we all (well, most of us I guess) would have loved to be able to buy a new PPC board to enable the Amiga to run OS4.x and quite a number would have loved to be able to buy a quick 68k accelerator board... And yes, there have been promises like 'next summer' 'next winter' or 'next x-mass' goods will be available, and many summers, winters, x-masses have passed, it still is a weird 'option' to decide to buy nothing at all just to 'punish' them.

So if you're in need of a product that IS available from Elbox then I don't see why one should not buy that product.

[wurzel]

I don't think stopping buying from Elbox would exactly encourage them to relase new products, do you?

To (mis)quote a famous American comdian, "That's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard".

Granted, their customer liaison is not the best, but they ship products quickly and they do exactly what it says on the tin.

It's also a cost effective (for Amiga anyway) way to get decent graphics from amiga. Have you seen true colour photos on Workbench?

Write to tehm and complain, by all means. But to raise a petition for everyone to stop buying? Don't hold your breath!

[jimmyboy]

Sorry but i disagree with the tease and promise marketing solution. So many times has the shark/sonnet ppc card been discussed and argued due to it sitting on there site. I could understand it a bit if they had lots of competition but not when they own the market pretty much, there is just no need for it. There other products are fine i agree.

Now im off to put out adverts for a cure for HIV in 2010 if you buy asprin today.............bad example but you get me?

[Rob]

@Nlandas

I sent a support request + some questions about SharkPPC and Dragon boards to Elbox on the 29th of July. I got a response on the 30th including answer regarding SharkPPC and Dragon.

 Rob napisa_(a):
>
> Hello,

 Hello,
 
> I have Mediator PCI and Fast ATA controller installed in my A1200T and
> now plan to get one of Jens Schoenfelds new scandoublers.
>
> According to Jens the Fast ATA controller will probably fit in with the
> scandoubler if you use extra ROM sockets to raise the main section of
> the Fast ATA .
> Can you tell me if the Mediator will fit over the Fast ATA if it has
> been raised with extra sockets?

No. It is rather impossible.
 
> I also have a few questions and ideas regarding future Elbox products.
 
> 1. Is there any possibility that the Dragon could be sold with a CPU
> card that has an 040/060 socket instead of the Coldfire CPU.  That way
> users could use the CPU from their old Blizzard or Apollo card and have
> the benefit of DMA between the system RAM and the PCI bus.

There is no sense to still use 68040 or 60 processor in the Dragon
system. The Coldfire processor, which will be installed in the production
version  of the Dragon board will be much faster than 68060.

> 2 Is there any news on the SharkPPC.

We do our best to release Shark boards this year.
 
> 3 Does Elbox have any plan to make a new Amiga using the the Minimig
> core or licence cores such as Natami or Clone A cores.
> If you can get the SharkPPC with OS4 on sale a Classic Amiga card could
> fit to the Mediator or Dragon where the A1200 would normally connect.
>  That way users could have a brand new OS4 capable Amiga hardware
> without an additional hardware contract.

Running OS4 for Classic on any system, which does not contain the Amiga
classic motherboard is afaik not covered by the license agreement between
Hyperion and Amiga Inc.

> I look forward to hearing from you and hope that you find some of my
> ideas usefull.

Thank you very much for sharing us your ideal. We really appreciate this.

Best regards,

Support Department of ELBOX COMPUTER
Web site: http://www.elbox.com
Online Store: http://buy.elbox.com

>
> Regards,
>
> Rob