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Which is the best Amiga and why?
« on: August 17, 2008, 06:58:12 AM »
Hi,

I was wondering (in the future) whether to buy a new Amiga. However I do not know which is the best Amiga to buy and worst of all I do not know what I could actually do with such an Amiga. I mean is it possible to do most of the things I already do with a PC? Or today Amiga's are used for some particular area where PC is still not that good at?

At amigakit.com they seem to still sell the A1200. Is this because this is the best Amiga out there? As much as I know the A1200 is not a PPC and the only Amiga PPC other there is the AmigaOne!

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Re: Which is the best Amiga and why?
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2008, 07:02:20 AM »
You have to pick your application...if you want the best traditional Amiga...I say a heavily expanded  A4000T.

If you want the best Amiga that was not an Amiga..Pegasos 2 G4 with MorphOS...hands down the ultimate in the evolution of the 'Amiga' platform.

Props go to AOS4 on the AmigaOne as a close second.

This post surely isn't very helpful :D
 

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Re: Which is the best Amiga and why?
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2008, 07:08:48 AM »
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I do not know what I could actually do with such an Amiga. I mean is it possible to do most of the things I already do with a PC? Or today Amiga's are used for some particular area where PC is still not that good at?

For most things, the average pc is (much) better in day to day use, although you can ofcourse still use an Amiga for many things. It's as good as it was back then in the early 90-ies and can be used for many things (wordprocessing, databases, spreadsheets, whatever) and if you don't expect more, it still works great. It's a very nice computer, but it is (ofcourse) outdated.

If you don't know what to do with an Amiga, I am slightly puzzled why you bother to buy one, though. Best thing to do in such a case is buy an A1200 with some extra ram, an internal harddrive and enjoy the games and demos which can still be found everywhere. Don't expect it to replace your pc, though. The A1200 is more than fast enough for this, it can be easily upgraded if you feel the need and it has the AGA-chipset on board (the latest chipset from the classic Amiga-line).

If you _just_ want to play classic games, are on a tight budget and don't care for the AGA-chipset, you can also buy a second-hand A500 for next to nothing. Expand RAM to 1 MB (if this hasn't already been done so), add an extra external diskdrive and you have a hell of a classic gaming machine.
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Re: Which is the best Amiga and why?
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2008, 07:18:58 AM »
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For most things, the average pc is (much) better in day to day use, although you can ofcourse still use an Amiga for many things. It's as good as it was back then in the early 90-ies with and if you don't expect more, it still works great. It's a very nice computer, but it is (ofcourse) outdated.

If you don't know what to do with an Amiga, I am slightly puzzled why you bother to buy one, though. Best thing to do in such a case is buy an A1200 with some extra ram, an internal harddrive and enjoy the games and demos which can still be found everywhere. Don't expect it to replace your pc, though.


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Re: Which is the best Amiga and why?
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2008, 07:23:21 AM »
amiga 3000.  best amiga ever    :D
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Re: Which is the best Amiga and why?
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2008, 07:27:46 AM »
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Just you wait, the 030 gang will thrash you to death once they go online with their 56k modems  :lol:

I don't expect anything else...  ;-)
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Re: Which is the best Amiga and why?
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2008, 07:57:12 AM »
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You have to pick your application...if you want the best traditional Amiga...I say a heavily expanded  A4000T.

If you want the best Amiga that was not an Amiga..Pegasos 2 G4 with MorphOS...hands down the ultimate in the evolution of the 'Amiga' platform.

Props go to AOS4 on the AmigaOne as a close second.

This post surely isn't very helpful :D


I agree with all of the above except I would prefer my A4000D in a PowerTower over the A4000T from Amiga Technologies.  I can't say about the Commodore A4000T as I have never seen one.

Also, I have to agree with the other poster's comments about why anyone that is not very familiar with what an Amiga is and what it can and more importantly, cannot do, would want to buy an Amiga?  Other than if he wanted an original Amiga instead of running WinUAE to play games, I can't recommend to anyone to buy an Amiga anymore (and I am one of its biggest fans and collectors).

If you don't already know all about Amigas, I suggest using UAE on your current computer and reading this forum for at least a year before you go spending any money on Amiga computers (sorry AmigaKit).
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Re: Which is the best Amiga and why?
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2008, 08:18:36 AM »
As some of you may already know I already have an A500+ and I have been upgrading these last few days. I do not have any use for it but I like the idea to have it maxed out :)

However during my Amiga learning curve I noticed that only the A1200 is still sold as 'new old stock' which I understand it means and 'not already used'. This made me think that there is some type of big market for this machine and that buying one would actually be useful for something.

Said that it seems that the A500+ could be upgraded to actually match the A1200. Although I do not think that the A500+ could take an AGA card!
 

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Re: Which is the best Amiga and why?
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2008, 08:22:28 AM »
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Said that it seems that the A500+ could be upgraded to actually match the A1200. Although I do not think that the A500+ could take an AGA card!

No AGA. No PCMCIA. All upgrades cost 2x-3x more.
 

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Re: Which is the best Amiga and why?
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2008, 08:59:30 AM »
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As much as I know the A1200 is not a PPC


The A1200 can have a Blizzard PPC card fitted and the A3000 & A4000 can have a Cyberstorm PPC card fitted. The cards will cost you an arm and a leg now, but you would have a machine of up to a whopping 240Mhz and be able to run AmigaOS 4.0 Classic :-)


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A1200..... buying one would actually be useful for something.


Told you so in your other thread HERE :-P  ;-)
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Re: Which is the best Amiga and why?
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2008, 09:54:49 AM »
Here's one tip; don't buy buy any more Amiga hardware for now! You have to take some time to think about what you want before you go any further...

Amigas are heavily outdated in the hardware and software department. A 1200 won't make a huge difference compared to a 500. The reason that they are sold new old stock is because someone found a warehouse of 1200s when Escom went bankrupt; not because of market demand!
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Re: Which is the best Amiga and why?
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2008, 11:21:52 AM »
I will tell what the amiga can do that the pc will not, it can protect you from those who would steal from or spy on you.

As I was reading this thread I noticed the LEDs on the modem flashing away, my PC is sending data and I have no idea to whom or why, for all I know it could be sending the contents of my hard drive.

Just because you're paranoid does'nt mean they're not out to get you.
 

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Re: Which is the best Amiga and why?
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2008, 12:20:15 PM »
@A6000
if thats a cable modem, its normal..
get some Linux/Unix, it is supposedly secure.

my fav Amiga is A4000D, A3000D is very close though.
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Re: Which is the best Amiga and why?
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2008, 12:55:46 PM »
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amiga 3000.  best amiga ever    :D


Second vote for A3000.

Because it is the last factory-model that was designed without thinking the costs, AGA-family is full of budget-thinking (ATA/IDE, DoublePAL-modes for eating chipset-bandwidth, no "external" flickerfixer/scandoubler, etc...) And AGA-family was allready outdated when A1200&A4000 were released.

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Re: Which is the best Amiga and why?
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2008, 01:39:03 PM »
A1200  +1 !  ;-)
easy to upgrade, and even a stock model is good
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