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I have been having problems with my A4000T lately.  Seem it won't start up unless I reseat the Cyberstorm.  It will work fine for a while and then it will go to black and not reset.  If I shut it off and wiggle the Cyberstrom a little, it usually starts up.  Now, it barely stays on for more than 10 minutes.  Can anyone tell me what I can try to do to fix this or who can fix it?  :-)  Thanks
 

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Re: A4000T Cyberstorm only working when pressed down every so often
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2003, 03:23:12 AM »
Hmm... Sounds like the card is loose(no, really!)
This happens to me occasionaly, and every so often I push it back in a bit more.
It could also be a dust problem, try cleaning the contacts on the communications receptical.

I'm not sure what you can do about the card being loose, a fix can be left up to your imagination! ;-)

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Oh and I forgot to mention, those connectors are absolute crap too! :-P

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Re: A4000T Cyberstorm only working when pressed down every so often
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2003, 03:30:30 AM »
How about duct tape. :-)

I tried cleaning it, but still get the same problems.

I thought I read something about the accelerator slots wearing down or the pins wearing down.  I was hoping that I don't have to replace the motherboard (again) or even worse having a PPC card on it's way to the grave.
 

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Re: A4000T Cyberstorm only working when pressed down every so often
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2003, 03:36:50 AM »
I wouldn't replace the card or the motherboard for what is essentialy a minor problem.
At most you would probably need to replace the connector, and I think the type of connectors on them are "KEL 200 pin"

Check also that it isn't an over heating problem ;-)
 

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Re: A4000T Cyberstorm only working when pressed down every so often
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2003, 03:46:36 AM »
Go down to your local hardware store (take to Cyberstorm with you) and go to the loose nuts, bolts and spacers bin. Find set [color=FF0000]nylon[/color] bolts and spacers. Get varing thicknesses of spacers so you can build a standoff pin to with-in 1mm or 2mm from the board when it is seated. Then you can "bolt" the card into place. I'll post a couple pictures up after I get home from work. Only the holes near the card connector need to be done like this and the holes at the back of the card can use the standard standoff pins.

For me this was more preventative than to fix and actual problem. I just didn't like the supplied standoff pegs. They seemed to be to long and trying to push the board out of the slot.
 

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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2003, 03:53:51 AM »
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Check also that it isn't an over heating problem


I'll second that. If you're using a CyberstormPPC, check that the fan still works.

Antec (and a few others, probably) sell these great little cooler units that use a free backplate card slot. They're great for Amigas since standard coolers won't fit without some casework. If you have a free and/or extra slot available, I would recommend one. My 1200T has been about 10x as stable since installing one.
 

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Re: A4000T Cyberstorm only working when pressed down every so often
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2003, 04:17:06 AM »
Rigger is correct in suggesting that you bolt the board in.  My 4000Tower had the very same problem ,  even after sending it back for repairs..  But my 3000Tower never had that problem... the 3000Tower was a Commodore and made in Germany .. the steel in the 3000Towers  are probably the same they used in their tanks ... very tough .. just try to drill the box for an extra fan ...who  knows where the 4000Towers  and/or slots were made??   ...Ritty
 

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Re: A4000T Cyberstorm only working when pressed down every so often
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2003, 04:26:17 AM »
Thanks!  I think that might do it.

Just wish me luck at the hardware store!   I have been having bad luck with them this past week.
 

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Re: A4000T Cyberstorm only working when pressed down every so often
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2003, 04:40:02 AM »
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Check also that it isn't an over heating problem

I thought that was the problem when this started happening (about a month ago).  I threw in a new 80mm case fan, replaced the PPC one with a new 486 fan from Radio Shack, put a 60mm fan over the 060 and SCSI chip, and threw in a harddrive cooling fan just for good luck.  
 

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Re: A4000T Cyberstorm only working when pressed down every so often
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2003, 04:45:41 AM »
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I threw in a new 80mm case fan, replaced the PPC one with a new 486 fan from Radio Shack, put a 60mm fan over the 060 and SCSI chip, and threw in a harddrive cooling fan just for good luck.


Oh.

You could probably start storing drinks in there! :-D
 

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Re: A4000T Cyberstorm only working when pressed down every so often
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2003, 06:01:25 AM »
I had exactly the same -- accumulating problem with my overclocked (to 60Mhz) CS MkII also in an A4000T. Finally it just gave up.
I sent it off to Jean Jacques in France at www.amiga.fr and got it back working perfectly 2 1/2 weeks later.
He blames overclocking which I accept - the CPU is robust but other parts on the card may not be. Could even be normal 'end of life'.

Good Luck.
 

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Re: A4000T Cyberstorm only working when pressed down every so often
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2003, 06:31:17 AM »
...Which is why I don't over clock! I would rather have stability over performance anyday! :crazy:
 

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Re: A4000T Cyberstorm only working when pressed down every so often
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2003, 06:35:21 AM »
OK, posted the pictures of my setup to the Image-o-Matic here but I guess one of the webmasters needs to approve them before they are available.

Knock, knock.... Hellooooooo. Mr. Moderator? Are you in there? hehe.....

Image-o-Matic A4000 section.
 

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Re: A4000T Cyberstorm only working when pressed down every so often
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2003, 05:36:02 PM »
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I had exactly the same -- accumulating problem with my overclocked (to 60Mhz) CS MkII also in an A4000T.

I was tempted to try overclock my Cyberstorm when I got my AmigaOne.  Since I have "bad luck" and the fact that I already had to have the 060 replaced on it last year I decided against it.  Which I kind of did not mind replacing at first,  since I got the 060 as a free sample from Motorola.  Of course, Motorola no longer gave samples out and I paid about US$225 for it.  A week later some site was offering them for US$75. :-/
 

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Re: A4000T Cyberstorm only working when pressed down every so often
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2003, 05:44:10 PM »
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OK, posted the pictures of my setup to the Image-o-Matic here but I guess one of the webmasters needs to approve them before they are available.

Awesome!!!  Now, it time to the hardware store! I also have plenty of other stuff to pick up there.