Miami Dx ? DNS problems.

[TheGoose]

Hey, all day doing this stuff,

Q1 - What does Miami Dx offer that's not in Miami?

Q2 - I have an X-surf card that is connected to my router (via Miami) but can not seem to resolve domain names. I can ping the Amiga fine. All settings are static. What am I missing?

I tried Miami Init - but it could not find anything with the router (D-Link DIR 655). It has DHCP running with PCs...

Another test : I connect the Amiga direct to the cable modem. Ran Miami Init and things went good until it tried to find DNS servers. No go. So I punched some in I know for my ISP. Still, Amiga could not find crap.

Or is this some browser issue? I was using IBrowse.

Thanks for ideas.


 :-?  :cry:  :evil:  :getmad:

[the_leander]

TheGoose wrote:
Hey, all day doing this stuff,

Q1 - What does Miami Dx offer that's not in Miami?

Short answer: A firewall.

TheGoose wrote:

Q2 - I have an X-surf card that is connected to my router (via Miami) but can not seem to resolve domain names. I can ping the Amiga fine. All settings are static. What am I missing?

Right, when you say, you can ping the amiga, do you mean you can ping it from another machine?

Can you ping that machine from the Amiga?

TheGoose wrote:

I tried Miami Init - but it could not find anything with the router (D-Link DIR 655). It has DHCP running with PCs...

Ok

TheGoose wrote:
Another test : I connect the Amiga direct to the cable modem. Ran Miami Init and things went good until it tried to find DNS servers. No go. So I punched some in I know for my ISP. Still, Amiga could not find crap.

Right, so it's having issues picking up the dhcp server and the DNS servers you've put in don't work.

Can you connect to the following IP address:

64.233.167.104 (Google)

If so we can rule out some conflict with the router blocking connections and get to work on MiamiDX.

Right, assuming the above test was positive, from one of your PC's, go to this website and copy the dns entries that it supplies into MiamiDX.

Question: what is your ISP? I remember from years ago Amigas having serious problems with BTInternet.

TheGoose wrote:
Or is this some browser issue? I was using IBrowse.

That remains to be seen.

TheGoose wrote:
Thanks for ideas.


 :-?  :cry:  :evil:  :getmad:

Good luck!  :-)

[Thomas]

the_leander wrote:

TheGoose wrote:
Hey, all day doing this stuff,

Q1 - What does Miami Dx offer that's not in Miami?

Short answer: A firewall.

+ Multiple interfaces (i.e. multiple network cards)
+ NAT routing between different interfaces
+ PPPoE

= Nothing a normal user with a router would need.

Bye,
Thomas

[TheGoose]

Thanks Leander / Thomas.

Yes, I can ping the Amiga from a PC machine, returns good. Thanks for the DNS site linky! I will try that. Although, I could find the DNS servers (IP) my router was using, in the admin pages. But maybe this will show something different.

Some kind of DNS issue...

Guess I kind happily skip Miami Dx too.

[TheGoose]

Well, still have some problem, starting to wonder if it is something with the ISP?

I have just removed the router from the equation completely for now.

As said, I am still trying Miami Init. It gets these parts automatically: IP, gateway, subnet mask.

It says something like ' Your provider doesn't seem to provide automatic DNS detection, would like to enter a DNS IP now?'

So, I entered a DNS the link above discovered. Then Miami tries to 'verify' - at this point. I don't know what it is doing really, but it reports back 'could not verify the DNS server use anyway?'

Well, it seems that no matter what I give Miami it can not work with it. I also tried 'OpenDNS' services, to no avail.

So to review, I have this setup:

A3000
X-Surf 3
Miami
Ibrowse 2.4 demo

oh and ISP is TimeWarner Cable RoadRunner

Not looking like this is gonna get online  :cry:

[Ilwrath]

Like The Leander asked, I'd be interested to hear if you could ping that google IP from your Amiga.  

Can you ping the DNS IPs you've tried from your Amiga?  
Can you traceroute to the DNS IPs?  What does that show?

I'm assuming the PCs pick up DNS settings properly from your ISPs DHCP, right?  

And, what are the IP, Subnet Mask, and Default Gateway your Amiga gets?  Are the Subnet Mask and Default Gateway set the same as the PC machines that work?

[TheGoose]

I have not tried to ping from the Amiga to another site, and that is a good idea.

I did try to load google by its IP in Ibrowse but it didn't work.

About the PCs, yes they all work fine, but as I said I am just troubleshooting cable modem to Amiga at this point.

I'll try again tonight...

[AndyFC]

A couple of years ago I hooked my A1200 up to the Internet using Miami DX and suffered issues. The solution I was given on Amiga.org (which worked for me) was to add the DNS server addresses into my router manually (varies from router to router).

However, you have also tested this with the cable modem straight into the Amiga, ruling out DNS config issues - when you plug your cable modem into the Amiga, do you reset it by powering it off for 10 seconds? I am with Virgin Media and if the modem gets plugged into any other device, it has to be reset to assign the IP address to the new MAC address it is communicating with.

[TheGoose]

Good news and new questions!  :-D

Still with Modem -> Amiga I went through a fresh setup ( power down modem and all ).

Went through Miami Init, and all went about the same. Didn't know DNS, so I supplied it manually.

Got online and went to shell and I was able to ping domain names with no problem, like google.com and amiga.org . Anything at all.

Ah ha! I said, this stack is fully happy and probably was with the router scenario as well. There is something that the browsers I've tried don't like or 'know' as they are all unbearably out of date.

I found some evidence to support my crap browser theory. I found one page I could connect to: http://www.cucug.org/

I looked at the code you know, and it was just plain old HTML, starting off with tag and no . A few of the other pages there would load too, like the meetings page. They too were just straight HTML.

Most anything contemporary would not load. So my thought is the browsers don't like something in the code like you have so regularly these days, like amiga.org (would not load):



So, what say you? I was using Ibrowse 1.12, Voyager 1.0 and Ibrowse 2.4 (demo - could not change any settings). I think a newer or different browser could do better? Aweb any better? What do people use now?

DNS is solved but loading web pages is not... Thanks for your comments

[TheGoose]

Well I got it going for spells, at more sites. But seems like after a bit, my router catches on and then things get blocked. Yes, I have tried to stop it with settings, even set the Amiga as a DMZ. I can see some packets are stopped by the router.

Still I get about 10 mins a session , then it just stops.

Frustrating.