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Offline dslcc

Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #120 on: August 23, 2003, 04:34:40 PM »
I like MOS1.4 - it doesn't have a EULA! At least that I can find :-D  :-D  :-D
:-o...
 

Offline pixie

Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #121 on: August 23, 2003, 04:35:52 PM »
> It seems you get upset every time someone questions or criticises
> Amiga Inc, and you automatically assume they do so out of bias.
> Why is that?

It must because I work at Amiga Inc and they pay my bills... must be it... ckecking cards, nope, I'm not!

I assume because it's what I though, I have entitled to my opinion, and I'm intitled to be wrong! To not be always factually correct! As everyone, it's not as if because you (you as people) are from MOS that you're entitled to be always right..

Bill I state what I state whenever I feel like for it, when I think it's  and not always as you pretend, like you I assume...

I state what I state when I feel like The One itself, so I can dodge all this bullets in 'bullet time' mode, it's better then drugs!  :-o


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Offline pixie

Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #122 on: August 23, 2003, 04:49:53 PM »
>I like MOS1.4 - it doesn't have a EULA! At least that I can find

One point to MorphOS, has it doesn't bring unnecessary discussions! ;-)


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Offline itix

Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #123 on: August 23, 2003, 05:16:49 PM »
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"This License allows you to to install and use the Amiga Software on a single Amiga-labelled or Amiga-licensed computer at a time."

...

"This license allows you to install or operate the Amiga Software only on a computer system that had a version of Amiga OS installed on it at the time you acquired such computer system."


This kind of license is void in Finland. I can buy OS 3.9 for whatever I want. Because: being written in english I can assume it doesnt concern users in Finland at all. OS 3.9 is still protected by finnish copyright laws of course (can't spread free copies or use single copy on multiple machines).

If this license comes in finnish then some parts of this license could be valid.
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Offline kokigami

Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #124 on: August 23, 2003, 07:28:05 PM »
 @Wolfe
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Are you a lawyer? In a court of law, an end user can be anyone currently in possession of the item in question. If genesi sells, packages or promotes OS X with the Pegasos they can be liable. End User is a generic term.



No, I am not a lawyer, but I am not an idiot either. Which is why I said
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as they are not End Users. At least not in their functions as resellers.


Certainly, if they do the installation, then their tech clicks the radio button and thus agrees.  They would be foolish to do the install.

But, again, you are debating definitions, not principles. The principle is that this Eula item should not exist.  Not in Amiga OS or OSX, or Sony's Lesbian Sex Kittens from Mars.

A EULA is an agreement, and can be negotiated.
 

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Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #125 on: August 23, 2003, 07:32:30 PM »
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One thing I forguet though Kronos, was AmigaOS3.9 implicitly need the AmigaOS3.1 roms to run, wether MacOSX don't*! ;-b


MacOSX needs a OF-like basis to run, which can be replaced by MOL.

OS3.9 does need something like Kick3.1 to run and the "boot.img" of MOS is
close enough to do that job. The only thing that doesn't work are the
ROM-updates (duh).

Oh, and I have 1 OS3.9 and 1 Amithlon, and atm I'm not even sure where that single
file I got installed on MOS came from (thats rexxsys.library).

1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

Offline dslcc

Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #126 on: August 23, 2003, 09:03:10 PM »
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pixie wrote:
>I like MOS1.4 - it doesn't have a EULA! At least that I can find

One point to MorphOS, has it doesn't bring unnecessary discussions! ;-)


Exactly...:) Only pleasant, happy discussions!  :-)
:-o...
 

Offline Hammer

Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #127 on: August 25, 2003, 05:14:26 AM »
 
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As is obvious from the licenses, no use of OS3.5 or OS3.9 on UAE, be it Amiga4ever or not, is allowed (Amiga4ever does not provide a "licensed computer", it is just a software package)
 

One has to define “computer” in that case. Virtual machine is a computer since it computes. A computer is just a fancy name for a (programmable) calculator. A calculator can be a software or hardware product.

“Emulators” can complicates/blur things, especially with newer processors e.g. IBM’s PowerPC 970, AMD’s Athlon XP/FX/64 and Intel’s Pentium Pro/II/III/VI/M.

The PowerPC 970’s hardware translator (crush/decode) stage can be equated as  a glorified hardware emulator/translator.  Similar processes also exist in AMD’s Athlon (K7**) and Intel’s Pentium Pro (P6***) series.

It’s not the fault of Amiga companies who can’t obtain/build a ‘post-RISC’ 68K**** CPU (‘Athlon’ed’ 68K as some people will say)…

**Also exist in AMD's K6 series.
***Includes Intel’s Pentium II/III/M and 'etc'.
****Not factoring the Coldfire Series due to some issues.
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Offline Ni72ous

Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #128 on: August 25, 2003, 05:22:32 AM »
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breaking a EULA...and in the case of Mac OS X, there is no dispute the EULA exists and is clear...is PIRACY.

Get it through your head, it is not piracy, its just and only breaking the t&c's.
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