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Re: My A500+ Project
« Reply #149 from previous page: August 27, 2008, 09:38:25 AM »
Thanks alexh

Regarding wireless on my A500+ ... one day it will happen, just not right now :-) :lol:

I know I am pushing my luck now, but rather then a CF card could I put a USB Pendrive?

Thanks for all the help so far :) The hard drive will be an interesting project all by itself :)
 

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Re: My A500+ Project
« Reply #150 on: August 27, 2008, 10:25:40 AM »
@alexh
I did a little bit more research. If I understand correctly I need the ACard AEC-7720U to connect with my current SCSI interface (the one whit which the previous hard disk was connected). Then I need the IDE to CF adapter connected to the ACard AEC-7720U which will be used to connect the CF card.

Now couldn't I buy a SCSI to USB adapter and USB pen drive? Wouldn't that be the same. I did a small search on google and seem there is some type of SCSI to USB adapters!
 

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Re: My A500+ Project
« Reply #151 on: August 27, 2008, 10:28:46 AM »
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I know I am pushing my luck now, but rather then a CF card could I put a USB Pendrive?

Yes you can.
Autoboot= NO! (the drivers must be active at bootup for that.)
But you still need a 030 at minimum 25mhz to power ANY usb controller in ANY Amiga...
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
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Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
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Re: My A500+ Project
« Reply #152 on: August 27, 2008, 10:31:34 AM »
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Now couldn't I buy a SCSI to USB adapter and USB pen drive? Wouldn't that be the same. I did a small search on google and seem there is some type of SCSI to USB adapters!


Link please?
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
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Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
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Re: My A500+ Project
« Reply #153 on: August 27, 2008, 10:36:07 AM »
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I know I am pushing my luck now, but rather then a CF card could I put a USB Pendrive?

Yes you can.
Autoboot= NO! (the drivers must be active at bootup for that.)
But you still need a 030 at minimum 25mhz to power ANY usb controller in ANY Amiga...


My knowledge on this subject is very limited so sorry if I sometimes over simplify what sounds like very complicated.

From what I am understanding I would only be connecting the USB to the SCSI adapter. My A500+ will no be seeing a USB but only a SCSI hard drive which in reality would be a USB pendrive! So why do I need a more powerful CPU? I am sorry in advance for my stupidity on this subject :$ :$
 

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Re: My A500+ Project
« Reply #154 on: August 27, 2008, 10:41:01 AM »
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From what I am understanding I would only be connecting the USB to the SCSI adapter. My A500+ will no be seeing a USB but only a SCSI hard drive which in reality would be a USB pendrive! So why do I need a more powerful CPU? I am sorry in advance for my stupidity on this subject :$ :$


Hmm... depending on how the SCSI-USB interface works...
If it replaces the CF bridge and lets you connect a pendrive to the SCSI chain. Yes it should work fine...
Do you have any link for such a device?
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Re: My A500+ Project
« Reply #156 on: August 27, 2008, 10:54:19 AM »
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I know I am pushing my luck now, but rather then a CF card could I put a USB Pendrive?

It is vaguely possible with an accelerator. You would need to buy a Subway USB card ($130) and an A500 Clock port interface ($43). However it is almost certainly NOT physically compatible with most A500 accelerators.

I.E. USB is not recommended!

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If I understand correctly I need the ACard AEC-7720U to connect with my current SCSI interface (the one whit which the previous hard disk was connected). Then I need the IDE to CF adapter connected to the ACard AEC-7720U which will be used to connect the CF card.

Correct. Sounds like a faf but it will work fine.

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couldn't I buy a SCSI to USB adapter and USB pen drive?

I am not familiar with that technology. I am not sure it exists. Give me a link.

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I found this but I do not think it does the job :(
http://www.amazon.com/Adaptec-1856600-USBxchange-Kit/dp/B000067OHN

That is USB->SCSI and you would need SCSI->USB.
 

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Re: My A500+ Project
« Reply #157 on: August 27, 2008, 11:07:38 AM »
Oki, and if I buy an SD/SDHC to CF Adapter then I could connect an SDHC card. This would be more simple for me since I already have a place where to put these in my laptop.
 

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Re: My A500+ Project
« Reply #158 on: August 27, 2008, 11:50:31 AM »
I do not recommend it. The more adapters you introduce and the more unusual they are the more chance you have of incompatibility.

GVP->ACard7720U->IDE->CF is confirmed as working.

Use a CF card and get a cheap PCMCIA->CF adapter (which you'll also be able to use with Amiga 600/1200) or a USB card reader.

If you MUST use an SD card, why not get an IDE->SD adapter, but do your homework. Find one known to work with ACard adapter! (The one I link here may or may not work with Acard!)
 

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Re: My A500+ Project
« Reply #159 on: August 27, 2008, 11:58:28 AM »
CF-to-SD, why?
That's 3rd converter, real cable mess, not to mention how ugly it must look...

If you insist on SD, then get a IDE-to-SD adapter
I.E

http://cgi.ebay.com/SD-SECURE-DIGITAL-MEMORY-CARD-TO-IDE-ADAPTER_W0QQitemZ110282283529QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item110282283529&_trkparms=72%3A570%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A3%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
A500+/KS3.1/GVPA530/2MbChipRam+8MbFastRAM 2GbCF/YAMAHA CDRW
 

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Re: My A500+ Project
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Re: My A500+ Project
« Reply #161 on: August 27, 2008, 12:06:10 PM »
Yes. it should work fine with a SCSI-ide adapter.
It will enable you to connect a SD card as HDD to a SCSI chain.
And with a SD-card reader you can mount it in UAE as a harddisk and install software to it...
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Re: My A500+ Project
« Reply #162 on: August 27, 2008, 12:06:58 PM »
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Yes. it should work fine with a SCSI-ide adapter.

Not guaranteed. All adapters are not automatically compatible. In a thread last week it was discovered that THIS IDE->SD adapter is not compatible with the Buddha Phoenix edition!!

Do your homework. Make sure it is compatible with the ACard AEC-7720U first. (Or at those prices just risk it?)
 

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Re: My A500+ Project
« Reply #163 on: August 27, 2008, 12:28:46 PM »
I am soon going crazy! :crazy: :-) How can I make sure it is compatible unless I buy all the staff and actually test it!?

EDIT:
... just now saw your last comment to actually buy them and test it :-)
 
 

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Re: My A500+ Project
« Reply #164 on: August 27, 2008, 12:34:57 PM »
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I am soon going crazy! :crazy: :-) How can I make sure it is compatible unless I buy all the staff and actually test it!?

Eh? You GOOGLE and check out the Amiga forums. You wont be the first. I think you'll be surprised how many Amigans have gone before you. A few searches of EAB and A.ORG and you've usually got your answer. Or you email ACard directly with the brand & model numbers of the adapters.

But if you already have an SD card and you do not have a CF card, at those prices then perhaps you just go for it ;-)

But prepared to go the CF route if it doesn't work.