Wither Natami?

[kolla]

bloodline wrote:
@kolla

Don't you mean European soldiers?

Yes, they were european soldiers, but all of them were british, hence it makes sense to point out that they were british soldiers - not german, not french, but british soldiers. I know this concept is very hard for you to grasp.

[ZeBeeDee]

kolla wrote:
Yes, they were european soldiers, but all of them were british, hence it makes sense to point out that they were british soldiers - not german, not french, but british soldiers. I know this concept is very hard for you to grasp.

*narrator's voice*

What kolla is actually trying to say is that the soldiers were from British regiments that make up a vast proportion of a European land based army.

We now return you to your regular scheduled thread.

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kolla wrote:

the_leander wrote:
We have such a strong sense of independance because scumbags from all over Europe have, time and again tried to take that away from us. The reason we, for the most part do not like being refered to as "Europeans", is because we have faught so bitterly hard to stop Europe from dominating us.

Those who have tried to take away your independance have mostly succeeded (romans, vikings, anglians, saxons, normans).  

Bravo - picking a bunch of examples, the most recent of which is approaching 1000 years old.  Point out any other European that can claim anywhere near that. Norway certainly can't.

The point is, with nearly a millennium of independence, and a number of tough years where we were effectively isolated and alone about 70 years ago, it's not hard to see why we are not really of the 'European' mindset.

It's nothing to do with any self-superiority - every nation has a small element of that.  If you were really the expert on Britain you claim to be you'd know how much time and energy we spend on complaining about how much we suck.

Is it really so hard to comprehend that we simply don't see ourselves that way, because that's not part of who we are?  We're not the only country that thinks that an EU superstate is a bad idea are we? ;-)

Besides, treating us like a bunch of retarded lepers is hardly the the most persuasive way of handling things now is it?  That just makes people want to tell you to shove your European brotherhood up your condesending arse.  And that's never a nice way for conversations to go.  :lol:

[Flashlab]

Sjeesz what an emotions here ;-)!

It's simple: if people don't want to be part of an European community then that's fine! Don't be. People can't be forced to join a party can they?

Whether it's short sighted or visionary, arrogant or self confident, smart just plain stupid is another question.

In my opinion we need to work together in Europe (when I take a look at my atlas the UK was still in Europe) to be able to compete with the US and the upcoming continents. No-one needs to loose their identity in doing so. If people don't want to then hey, too bad. I hope that in the future Europe can become more of world power again in a positive way. After WWII we lost the power and credibility IMHO.

[Atheist]

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alexh wrote:

Atheist wrote:
When I used TOS, I couldn't even find the RAM: disk???

Where did you look?

Hi alexh,

I looked on the screen, and couldn't see an icon for it.

Atheist wrote:
So, is Atari ST just as good as AOS then?

Apples and Oranges mate. You can use a recoverable RAM disk though.

Wasn't apparent that there was one.

Although, I may have had an older version of TOS that didn't have it yet, and I was using it casually and only for a couple of days.

Can the OS be completely copied over, and a reboot done with then the system disk not being accessed anymore like on Amiga?

[Atheist]

the_leander wrote:

amigadave wrote:
@the_leander,

Seems your wish has been answered.  He is posting all over the place now (I don't know anything about your "invited one").

Less a wish and more of a calculated risk in saying his name  ;-)

As for invited, I meant that in the same way as "speak the devils name and he shall appear"...

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Hi amigadave, the_leander,

Actually, I was off the internet for about 3 days and when I got on saw this thread out at 12 pages, and having only read three pages, replied in it. It was a fluke (but accurate) that you had made that comment about me.

[Atheist]

the_leander wrote:

Atheist wrote:

B00tDisk wrote:

Any expert system that couldn't keep itself from overwriting its own memory would be effectively worthless.  Every thought would essentially be a tapeworm, destroying data as it was created.

Hi B00tDisk,

And yet my Amiga 2000 using AOS1.3.3 runs?

Something that isn't an AI.

Hi the_leander,

No, but for the obvious reasons of, not fast enough, not enough bits CPU and not enough RAM/hard drive space.

Although, 1 Gig and a fast CPU in a NatAmi60 and 1 terabyte of storage, I think that the realm of AI can be grazed if not fully realized.

Atheist wrote:
And yes, why chastise me for being selfish and wanting a ONE USER computer/OS? PC is for Personal Computer not Politically Correct, and sharing my toy with all comers.

There are perfectly good reasons for having a tiered system of access on a computer, stopping people with too little knowledge to understand and just enough to do damage is one of them.

If it's what you want, great, fantastic and more power to you. Thing is though, the rest of the world, that being one with a clue of course, want their *own* accounts, customised to their particular likes and dislikes without having to worry about other people using the machines preferences.

Well, "the rest of the world" have 3 OSs to choose from, may they compute in peace.

[Atheist]

B00tDisk wrote:

Atheist wrote:
Hi B00tDisk,

And yet my Amiga 2000 using AOS1.3.3 runs?

Please explain, using all your powers of comprehension and computer knowledge, how AOS 1.3 is in fact an AI or expert system.

Hi B00tDisk,

Simple, it's not an AI system. I was mostly concerned with the statement that MP is a crisis and systems without don't work, when clearly there is a computer that works, and doesn't use it.

As for expert system, I attribute it's flexibility and manipulability to that qualification.

And yes, why chastise me for being selfish and wanting a ONE USER computer/OS? PC is for Personal Computer not Politically Correct, and sharing my toy with all comers.

Psh.  You don't even understand what multiuser is about.

I don't care about it, as there are 3 OSs available with it, and I don't want to use them because they don't truly offer what I want. Why are they bigger than 80 Megs? They're no good.

[A6000]

Are'nt atheists posts off topic, I thought this was the Eurobashing thread. :-D

[Atheist]

shoggoth wrote:

Like someone said, it seems like you don't like memory protection just because AOS lacks this functionality.

Hi shoggoth,

Yes, I don't like it because it wasn't originally implemented, so I guess it wasn't critical to have.

Also, MP slows a system down, and with the pathetic speed we have available to us as it is, we need every cycle we can get.

ALSO, isn't it true that most SW would need to be recompiled if AOS went MP?

You got access to all the source code of all the AOS sw out there for that to be done?

In addition to all of that, who's rewriting AOS3.1 to use MP anyhow?

[Atheist]

Flashlab wrote:
@bloodline

Interesting article. Also this quote from it:

Today, just four European countries still drive on the left: Cyprus, Ireland, Malta and the United Kingdom.

Maybe you should edit the article to make it more "true"?  ;-)

Hi Flashlab,

Are you highlighting that "left is right" or that "Cyprus, Ireland, Malta and the United Kingdom" are four European countries?.

[Flashlab]

The remark was about the UK not being European according to bloodline but the article he provided to prove that some British customs are better actually states that the UK is a European country. Thought it was quite funny!

[shoggoth]

Atheist wrote:

Although, I may have had an older version of TOS that didn't have it yet, and I was using it casually and only for a couple of days.

Can the OS be completely copied over, and a reboot done with then the system disk not being accessed anymore like on Amiga?

TOS doesn't have a ramdisk. Later incarnations of the OS are disk based and does have a ramdisk (/ram/). You can't boot from it though, if that's what you mean.

That said, I wouldn't rule out the possible existence of a bootable RAM-disk, since the system in theory supports it.

[Atheist]

A6000 wrote:
Are'nt atheists posts off topic, I thought this was the Eurobashing thread. :-D

ROFL!

[Atheist]

It's ironic that Switzerland ISN'T in the EU.

[ZeBeeDee]

Atheist wrote:
It's ironic that Switzerland ISN'T in the EU.

Not really ... who controls most of the money in Europe anyway?

You got it ... Switzerland. They can and probably already said "Shove your EU! Try and force us in and opp!, we lost your privately numbered Swiss account with all those millions" lol