Old HAM pictures from Digiview I think

[Rowbeartoe]

Hey everyone, I have the newtek demo reels but I was wondering if anyone can help me find all those other digiview pictures?  Most notable the butcher series?  Girl with pencil in mouth with green glove and blue background or the girl with a sucker.  Another notable picture was the horse with a taxi in the background.  Digi everything used to have so many great pictures.

Thanks.  

[yorgle]

I think most of those came with DigiPaint.  I had DigiView (with the A1000 dongle) and I don't remember it coming with extra images.

[Rowbeartoe]

That's too bad.  I have photonpaint, but no digi programs.  Well if anyone has those pictures!?!?!  I'd love to have them.  Thanks.  =)

[Rowbeartoe]

Ok, so now i'm certain these pictures came with Digipaint.  So does anyone have the pictures that came with the program/s.  

Thanks.  

The link below shows the really bad Spectrum 512 conversions of the pictures I'm trying to get.   =)

http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=14448

[weirdami]

Digiview is a company that makes cheap DVD's of cheap movies and sells them at Walmart for $1. Or, if you're lucky, for 25 cents at a grocery store.

[DonnyEMU]

You mean the first Newtek girl. Newtek's "Maxine Headroom" aka "Laura Longfellow".. If that was her real name we don't know for sure but she was replaced by Kiki Stockhammer (Stromgren I think was her real name).. It's been a long time to remember that far back..

[Rowbeartoe]

Ok they didnt' come with Digipaint/s or the NewTek Demo reels. My best guess is they were part of the first Digiview.  My link above shows the pictures in particular I'm looking for that were converted badly to Spectrum 512.  Thanks for anyone who can help.  

[weirdami]

what for they?

[InTheSand]

Hi,

On a related note, what do people generally use these days for viewing and/or converting IFF images (both ways, including HAM6/HAM8) on non-Amiga platforms, specifically Windows and Linux? Just curious!

 - Ali

[Rowbeartoe]

I use GBMREF on the PC to convert to Amiga Formats.  XNVIEW displays my Amiga pictures that I can then save to BMP or whatever.   I still have to play with my Amiga 500 to file share with the PC (via null modem) so I can start converting SHAM pictures and saving them to the PC using GBMREF.  I have to learn how to do that, and I think I found some places that explains how- but right now I just don't have that kind of time.  My interest right now is in finding those old pictures.  I want to convert them to the Atari ST using Photochrome and other various programs including Spectrum 512 (hopefully with better results).  To bad I couldn't get the orginal photographs in 24bit from those NewTek guys.  =(

Thanks for all your help guys.  

[InTheSand]

Rowbeartoe wrote:
I use GBMREF on the PC to convert to Amiga Formats...

Aha, thanks for that, just found it here: Generaised Bitmap Module. Will give that a go, interested to convert a few photos to HAM6 for display on an A500, just to see what results I get!

And I checked out XnView earlier, works well for the few (non-HAM) images I've thrown at it so far, plus it works under Wine with no problems.

 - Ali

[amigaksi]

>by Rowbeartoe on 2008/7/28 4:04:49

>I use GBMREF on the PC to convert to Amiga Formats. XNVIEW >displays my Amiga pictures that I can then save to BMP or >whatever. I still have to play with my Amiga 500 to file share with the PC (via null modem) so I can start converting SHAM pictures and saving them to the PC using GBMREF. I have to learn how to do that, and I think I found some places that explains how- but right now I just don't have that kind of time. My interest right now is in finding those old pictures. I want to convert them to the Atari ST using Photochrome and other various programs including Spectrum 512 (hopefully with better results). To bad I couldn't get the orginal photographs in 24bit from those NewTek guys. =(

Do you have a utility that uses custom copper lists to convert to Amiga formats or just using the stock Amiga modes?  I still have the Spectrum 512 images you sent me, but I have not had the time to write a custom copper list generator.  The algorithm was to use a 32-color mode and change registers within HBI and mid-screen to simulate at least the color register modifications of the Spectrum 512 so any image on Atari ST can be shown on Amiga losslessly.  Do you happen to know at which color clocks the Spectrum 512 modifies the palette?  I don't have that software.

>Thanks for all your help guys.

Is that Spectrum 512 limited to 320*200 or does it also do mid-screen changes in 640*200 mode?

[Rowbeartoe]

Spectrum 512 works so differn't from HAM6 or anything I'm aware- contary to popular belief when converting 24-bit pictures, Spectrum 512 can best (but not always) what can be achieved with HAM6.  Of course converting a HAM6 to Spectrum 512 will always look less impressive because the source is the HAM6 picture. Spectrum 512 divides each scan line 3 times for 48 colors per scan line(actually 42 if you want to use and edit with the paint program, 45 if you don't use the paint program and 48 if you use one of the photochrome modes).  HAM6 can best Spectrum 512 in some ways because you can have 320 colors on a scan line.  But HAM6 is limited because after those 16 "free" colors you can only modifify one of the 3 RGB values from a previous color causing unessary colors. Spectrum 512 is limited to 320x200.  No interlacing.  Photochrome looks amazing (bests VGA in many ways) but wasn't available until early 90's (spectrum 512 came out in 1987!).  Photochrome interlaces two pictures and color mixes giving you 96 colors per scan line and a 4,096 color palette (for standard ST).  Flicker is at a minimum for most cases and is similar to looking at interlaced pictures on the Amiga.  

BTW XNVIEW 1.61 displays Amiga HAM pictures and Spectrum 512.  I think the newest version does not.  

For more details how these ST picture formats work check out the link.  Other paint programs allowed the borders to be removed (neochrome master) as is so common with the Amiga.

http://www.atari-forum.com/wiki/index.php/Graphics

[Rowbeartoe]

Well with my LONG LONG LONG search for these DAM NewTek digiview pictures I can't seem to find, I found this cool PC program. You can use your PC to view Amiga ADF files, then all you have to do is right click and copy to your PC or disk. =) Then use something like XNVIEW (older 1.61) to check out the Amiga HAM pictures. I've been browsing ADF files now all over the net in search for these pictures! Perhaps this will help others who want to help me with this search!?!?

I checked out both New Tek Demo Reels
I checked out Digipaint 1 and 2
I checked out Digiview 4

I think they came out in late 1986 but no later than the end of 1987. (Again, the pictures I'm looking for are in Spectrum 512 format linked above)

Help me find these pictures PLEASE!

Thanks.

[InTheSand]

Rowbeartoe wrote:
...I found this cool PC program. You can use your PC to view Amiga ADF files, then all you have to do is right click and copy to your PC or disk...

I presume you mean ADFView? Pretty handy really, and integrates nicely with Explorer under Windows.

 - Ali