Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1

[Vlabguy1]

Thanks for posting the link..

The OS looks great..So only an AmigaOne can run it??

Thats seems to be an issue..unless..there will be machines available..


Rich

[rkauer]

Vlabguy1 wrote:

The OS looks great..So only an AmigaOne can run it??

Rich

 Yep, only A1... :horse:

[HopperJF]

Hans_ wrote:

Phantom wrote:
So AmigaOS 4.1 will be an update to the old AmigaOne or MicroAmiga users right? So why we bother? :-o

I'm sure that they expect to get it running on more hardware eventually. There's no point in sitting around and doing nothing until then.

This is great news.

Hans

You are far too optimistic  ;-)
Yet... I hope you are right.

In my mind, we have been waiting for new hardware for years now so I can't see anything suddenly cropping up in the near future. Again, I hope that isn't the case but it is very easy to be negative in these times.

At least the Acorn users have new OS and hardware..

[uncharted]

takemehomegrandma wrote:

Matt_H wrote:
I wouldn't really call that a "pre-announcement" ... Funny that it comes hot on the heels of MorphOS2 and adds similar functionality. Brings back memories of Microsoft's announcement of the imminent release (which of course slipped) of MS-DOS version-something in order to cut sales of competitor DR-DOS.

That's *exactly my point* with "pre-announcement"! :-)

I'm *not* doubting they will release the 4.1, but in the announcement they doesn't even specify a release date, and it feels like an announcement of an announcement of a release that they made only to say "OS4 will also have MorphOS features, and quite soon as well", and as you say the timing is kind of interesting. All in all the situation is not like the "4.1 is OUT" thread I saw over at AW.net. ;-)

I think you really need to grow up.

[bloodline]

uncharted wrote:

takemehomegrandma wrote:

Matt_H wrote:
I wouldn't really call that a "pre-announcement" ... Funny that it comes hot on the heels of MorphOS2 and adds similar functionality. Brings back memories of Microsoft's announcement of the imminent release (which of course slipped) of MS-DOS version-something in order to cut sales of competitor DR-DOS.

That's *exactly my point* with "pre-announcement"! :-)

I'm *not* doubting they will release the 4.1, but in the announcement they doesn't even specify a release date, and it feels like an announcement of an announcement of a release that they made only to say "OS4 will also have MorphOS features, and quite soon as well", and as you say the timing is kind of interesting. All in all the situation is not like the "4.1 is OUT" thread I saw over at AW.net. ;-)

I think you really need to grow up.

Maybe he does, but he also has a point...

[amigadave]

Plaz wrote:
Good for Hyperion. Now some one get us enough documentation that we can start building underground mother boards in our basements, garages and spare bed rooms so we have some thing to run it on!!!

Plaz

Well, if one man can recreate the entire Classic Amiga OCS chipset in an FPGA by himself in little over one year and a couple of others can recreate and improve upon the AGA chipset, and still another single hardware designer can redesign the A1000 mobo, adding an 030/6882 IDE controller, plus 2mb Chip RAM and 8mb or 16mb Fast RAM, why can't we expect for someone, or some community group to redesign the AmigaOne hardware so we all can make our own new mobo's to run AOS4.1 on?

Not likely, but not impossible either.

[uncharted]

bloodline wrote:

Maybe he does, but he also has a point...

The "pre-announcement" addition to the title was a childish fanboy moment, that had no other purpose than to cause friction. Such behaviour deserves to be left in the past.  His justification that there is no firm release date other than "mid-Q3/2008" is laughable when MorphOS 2.0 recently hit it's "Q2/2008"

Hello Pot, meet Kettle.

[bloodline]

uncharted wrote:

bloodline wrote:

Maybe he does, but he also has a point...

The "pre-announcement" addition to the title was a childish fanboy moment, that had no other purpose than to cause friction. Such behaviour deserves to be left in the past.  His justification that there is no firm release date other than "mid-Q3/2008" is laughable when MorphOS 2.0 recently hit it's "Q2/2008"

Hello Pot, meet Kettle.

Yeah, true, but I don't get the pre-announcement thing... I prefer the Apple approach who don't announce anything without a firm release date.. Even if by release they mean just 18 phones...

Anyway MOS 2.0 was right on schedule... 21st Century on the dot!

[Kronos]

Matt_H wrote:


Here's one for the lawyers: Does a change in the product name, even as miniscule as a .1 release increment, constitute a "new" product, clear of the previous contract? Hyperion could dump the 4.0 code from December, 2006 (or even earlier) on Amiga, Inc., shutting down their argument of breach of contract, while the actual, important codebase has advanced considerably. OS4 has already been marketed with a new Amiga logo, so they're not in violation of the Escom-era, Bodoni-typeface trademark that Amiga, Inc. still owns...

Only when they could proove that no AmigaOS1.0-4.0 sources were used in the creation of 4.1 ..... and offcourse AInc (one of them) also owns the trademark "Amiga" itself.

[Kin-Hell]

Dragster wrote:
Nice, any updates on OS4 for the so-called "classics"?

AHI and BVPPC?CVPPC drivers should be fixed...

Cheers

AmigaOne only Dragster....

Still no fix for the SLOWWWWwwwwww iBrowse 2.4 on OS4 Classic either. About right eh!  :roll:

[Matt_H]

@ Kronos

Well, the filesystem is definitely new, so no trouble there.

Amiga, Inc. has the "Amiga" trademark, but do they have the "AmigaOS4.1" trademark? Can Hyperion successfully argue that it's not a derivative work? That's why I summoned the lawyers :-)

[Matt_H]

@ uncharted

Relax, it's just a little fun with words. We've got to learn to laugh at ourselves as a community after all nonsense over the years.

[codenetfx]

I wonder how Hyperion stays in business if hardware is so scarce. Yes, this definitely may be "exiting" (someone's typo) because couple of more versions and Hyperion may be exiting the market for the lack of takers.

[Hans_]

HopperJF wrote:

I'm sure that they expect to get it running on more hardware eventually. There's no point in sitting around and doing nothing until then.

This is great news.

Hans

You are far too optimistic  ;-)
Yet... I hope you are right.

In my mind, we have been waiting for new hardware for years now so I can't see anything suddenly cropping up in the near future. Again, I hope that isn't the case but it is very easy to be negative in these times.

Well I have an Amigaone, so there's a reason for my optimism. So far the OS4 devs have done what they said that they would do. Supporting more hardware is on their list. Given that they're still actively working on the OS, I'm expecting them to make it happen when they are allowed to do so.

Hans

[Hans_]

bloodline wrote:

Yeah, true, but I don't get the pre-announcement thing... I prefer the Apple approach who don't announce anything without a firm release date.. Even if by release they mean just 18 phones...

Anyway MOS 2.0 was right on schedule... 21st Century on the dot!

I have a feeling that they weren't planning to announce it until later. However, given MOS2's release, and some people getting the feeling that OS4 was starting to lag behind, it makes sense for them to let everyone know that progress has been good. I personally hadn't expected the hardware based compositing etc. this soon.

Hans

[uncharted]

Matt_H wrote:
@ uncharted

Relax, it's just a little fun with words. We've got to learn to laugh at ourselves as a community after all nonsense over the years.

There was nothing "fun" about it.  It was a snide comment, reminiscent of the bad old days and totally unnecessary.

I was hoping after the general good behaviour around the MOS2.0 announcement  that we'd maybe turned a corner.  However it seems there are some who still want to hold on to the old blue/red crap.