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Re: Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2008, 01:31:22 AM »
Now we are back at that famous point: Hardware to run OS4 is rare and expensive.

Point for Morphos ! At least we can buy a new Efika and it is not too expensive, even considering it is not exactly state of the art...

It seems to me that it would be a nice investment to both companies to hire someone to develop new hardware to run these OS'

A small company could probably do a board design cheaper than their investment in software development.

Seems to be that we amigans are going to be extinct before this day  :getmad:  :boohoo:
 

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Re: Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2008, 01:33:17 AM »
Announcing AmigaOS 4.1

Congratulations to everyone involved. :-D

I hope to see more information soon.

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Re: Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2008, 01:47:38 AM »
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So why we bother?


My guess is that it's a move to leverage their position in the law suit and any negotiations. Amiga Inc has little or nothing while Hyperion is moving on to 4.1. That's got to annoy some one over at A.I.

I do wonder what the hell Amiga, Inc. would actually do if they got their hands on OS4.

Here's one for the lawyers: Does a change in the product name, even as miniscule as a .1 release increment, constitute a "new" product, clear of the previous contract? Hyperion could dump the 4.0 code from December, 2006 (or even earlier) on Amiga, Inc., shutting down their argument of breach of contract, while the actual, important codebase has advanced considerably. OS4 has already been marketed with a new Amiga logo, so they're not in violation of the Escom-era, Bodoni-typeface trademark that Amiga, Inc. still owns...
 

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Re: Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2008, 02:07:45 AM »
Show when's it going to run on a PPC MacMini?
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Re: Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2008, 02:30:45 AM »
I just had a thought, I'd laugh my ass off if this OS4.1 install disk just happened by pure chance to work on an Efika.   :-D

Could you just imagine Amiga Inc complaining to the judge that Hyperion released a disk for new and existing hardware while Hyperion's lawyers just stand their with stone-like faces and their fingers crossed and hidden behind their back saying "We were as suprised as anyone when we found out it worked on the Efika!  You can't think we did it deliberately because why would we adapt our software to work on a non-partner's board?"

Nah, we couldn't be that lucky... could we?   ;-)
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Re: Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2008, 02:44:21 AM »
@ Darrin

There's only one slight problem: reading a CD on the Efika! :-)

I suspect it's more likely to "just coincidentally" work on the SAM boards, but I'm not expecting it to - I had secretly hoped for such a thing with the Classic release. I'm not holding my breath for this one..
 

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Re: Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2008, 02:52:30 AM »
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I wouldn't really call that a "pre-announcement" ... Funny that it comes hot on the heels of MorphOS2 and adds similar functionality. Brings back memories of Microsoft's announcement of the imminent release (which of course slipped) of MS-DOS version-something in order to cut sales of competitor DR-DOS.


That's *exactly my point* with "pre-announcement"! :-)

I'm *not* doubting they will release the 4.1, but in the announcement they doesn't even specify a release date, and it feels like an announcement of an announcement of a release that they made only to say "OS4 will also have MorphOS features, and quite soon as well", and as you say the timing is kind of interesting. All in all the situation is not like the "4.1 is OUT" thread I saw over at AW.net. ;-)
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Re: Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2008, 02:56:01 AM »
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So why we bother? :-o


My sentiments exactly. I consider OS4 *dead* (or at least in Amithlon land) until Amiga Inc and Hyperion makes a joint press release proclaiming a settlement and continued joint evolution of that platform.

But that won't happen.
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Re: Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2008, 03:14:25 AM »
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So why we bother? :-o


My sentiments exactly. I consider OS4 *dead* (or at least in Amithlon land) until Amiga Inc and Hyperion makes a joint press release proclaiming a settlement and continued joint evolution of that platform.

But that won't happen.


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Re: Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2008, 03:40:13 AM »
@ takemehomegrandma

I think we're nitpicking over the definition of words. :-)
 

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Re: Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2008, 05:09:17 AM »
@Matt_H

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Funny that it comes hot on the heels of MorphOS2 and adds similar functionality.


M2 vs. o'four 1 and o'four 3

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Re: Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2008, 05:49:06 AM »
@ itix

Yes, the points I was referring to were the transparency and the new list view for Workbench windows.

(I haven't tested transparency that extensively under MorphOS2, so I don't yet have an opinion on how it affects the user interface.)
 

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Re: Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2008, 07:17:12 AM »
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Funny that it comes hot on the heels of MorphOS2 and adds similar functionality. Brings back memories of Microsoft's announcement of the imminent release (which of course slipped) of MS-DOS version-something in order to cut sales of competitor DR-DOS.


I thought that was the ol' Windows 95 vs. OS/2 Warp trick.
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Re: Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2008, 07:19:13 AM »
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However transparency effect is in most cases more confusing than useful.


Doesn't Gateway have patents on transparent windows or something. Maybe "lenticular" windows is something else. I'm sure that's the word they used back then.
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Re: Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2008, 07:26:29 AM »
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I'm *not* doubting they will release the 4.1, but in the announcement they doesn't even specify a release date,

They didn't, so whats this?

"Hyperion Entertainment is very pleased to announce that Amiga OS 4.1 has gone into final testing and is scheduled for release mid-Q3/2008."
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Re: Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1
« Reply #29 from previous page: July 12, 2008, 08:02:20 AM »
Thanks for posting the link..

The OS looks great..So only an AmigaOne can run it??

Thats seems to be an issue..unless..there will be machines available..


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