What if everyone used AOS4, the rockin' debate and information revealing thread

[weirdami]

I saw this picture in the image-o-matic and I got to wondering about AOS4. Not considering whether or not it's legal to have AOS4 anymore, if AOS4 had all the apps that people complain about it not having as why they wouldn't switch from windows or mac or whatever, would AOS4 be modern enough? Even though we all know that windows is lame, people are doing everything on it and I wonder if a genie came by and made every computer an AOS4 computer (whatever that is), what difference would that make? I can't really think of the right words to use here, because lots of words are loaded with regard to microsoft products and some also would say that of apple products. So, if you can see what I'm getting at, post up some rockin' chatter.  :oops:

Maybe I should ask if AOS4 is lacking anything that other OS's have or any modern OS is expected to have or whatever. Or, maybe if AOS4 just an adequate enough update to make old users happy and nothing more.

[Christian Johansson]

It would still be lacking memory protection and that's pretty important nowadays imo.

[Fester]

I'd like to try OS4, but if a genie came along and took my other platforms away, I'd have to say: Bad genie! Bad genie! Bad genie!

..and then I'd be on vacation for a very long time...

[Trev]

Yes, memory protection. Multiple/multicore and 64-bit processors. Modern interconnects. Virtualization. Stability and scalability.

AmigaOS doesn't have to be general purpose if it doesn't want to be; however, you can't do much as a special purpose operating environment without a solid hardware platform.

[Nlandas]

All I need is

Firefox (Flash, Shockwave, Java)
Thuderbird or equally cool email client.
Movie player for (MP2, MP4)
MP3 player
Open Office
DVD/CD burning
(DVDRIP, MP2 recode to MP4)
and I've got everything that I really need.

Then throw in games - wait on AGA hardware I assume I can play my old ones - sweet!

Yes, AOS 4 with modern applications and I'm there!!!

I don't need memory protection, etc. I never had a problem using OS 3.1 it was stable, fast and if it actually did crash it took me a few seconds to reboot.

-Nyle

[weirdami]

I keep losing track of what all minimum hardware AOS4 needs but if there's a hardware component needed to be thrown into the mix, let's start with minimum requirements and work up from there. To start, I ask if Flash and Javascript whatnots on webpages (and in place of them) would run as they do on other platforms. That is to say, can the minimum hardware handle them. Furthermore, would an A1200 be able to handle them as they are now?

[AeroMan]

Nlandas wrote:
All I need is

Firefox (Flash, Shockwave, Java)
Thuderbird or equally cool email client.
Movie player for (MP2, MP4)
MP3 player
Open Office
DVD/CD burning
(DVDRIP, MP2 recode to MP4)
and I've got everything that I really need.

...

I don't need memory protection, etc. I never had a problem using OS 3.1 it was stable, fast and if it actually did crash it took me a few seconds to reboot.

-Nyle

I agree with you. Most computer users today are actually just internet users (please add MSN and some torrent client..). With the basic apps, It could do it really nice, and lots of people would comment on how fast it boots compared to (name your favorite OS).

With all the "modern" features, I still see blue screens and have to reboot so many times. So, who cares about them after all ? They are not doing their job as they should :-D

Memory protection is a goal. Maybe OS5 (an OS4 sequel, not that awful thing A Inc talked about) could reach it in this dream world.   :crazy:

[redfox]

@weirdami

Everyone has their own opinion of what they would wish for, what they must have and what they consider to be the absolute minimum rock bottom features they need.

At home here, we have three pc's running WindowsXP, my MicroA1 running AOS4 and a semi-retired A2000HD running AmigaOS 3.1.  I personally use my MicroA1 more often than the pc's.  The other family members use the pc's, but have no interest in Amiga stuff.

Recently, my hard drive croaked, so I am running a basic installation of the most recent public AmigaOne version of AOS4 on a new hard drive.  I'm posting this post using IBrowse 2.4 for AmigaOS 4.0.  It works fine on most web sites that I would normally visit.

Right now I am running what I would consider to be rock bottom.  It is very stable and I can still surf the net to my content. :-D

Before my hard drive croaked, my system had several PPC programs, several 68K programs, and E-UAE for old stuff that didn't like OS4.  I had Final Writer 97, AWebPPC, IBrowse, OWB (a web browser in development), Personal Paint, TVPaint, Real3D, AmigaAMP, TuneNet (an MP3 player and internet radio player), DvPlayer, AmiDVD (a CD writer program), MakeCD (an older CD writer program), AmiPDF, WarpView (a picture viewer), YAM, SimpleMail, WookieChat, and many others.

What I lacked was a printer driver for my particular brand of printer and some more sophisticated office type applications.

These kinds of programs come to a stable market where there is hardware available and developers can make some money selling their product.

---
redfox

[AmigaMance]

 You should be careful of what you're asking. Memory protection makes the OS slower and kills backwards compatibility. Of course, you can always use UAE if your "Amiga" is fast enough.

[Trev]

I don't see why memory protection would have to kill backward compatibility or necessarily make the system slower. What you might kill is interoperability between legacy and current software, but even that could be mitigated with the right design.

EDIT: What I really want is OS4+ on the PS3 or some other Cell-based platform.

[Pyromania]

Trev is right OS 4.0 on PS3 would rock!!!

[weirdami]

Pyromania wrote:
Trev is right OS 4.0 on PS3 would rock!!!

So OS4 just needs some hard rockin' hardware to make the genie poof transition unnoticeable?

[Varthall]

What I lacked was a printer driver for my particular brand of printer and some more sophisticated office type applications.

Ever tried Abiword and Gnumeric under Cygnix?

Varthall

[Methuselas]

If everyone used AOS4, we'd all still be playing side scrollers......


 :roll:

[beakster2]

If everyone used OS4....

Not everyones desktop would look the same.  Notice how all windows users have exactly the same computer with a different background pic?  Amiga users computers are all completely customised, from the icons, to the window borders, window backgrounds, startup-sequences etc.

People would become more creative.  Amiga users all have at least a little bit of knowledge about creating music, animations, pictures etc.  Alot of modern PC users don't even know how to use Paint and Sound Recorder (what a productivity suit that is Microsoft).  Ever wonder why modern computer magazines don't have Readers Gallery or Readers Games like Amiga Format used to have?