Removable CF in IDE for A4000

[jj]

Unless things have changed even win98 doesnt supportt ntfs.  I used to have drivers for it, but they were read only, dont know if thats changed.

Im guessing that now linux has read/write support of ntfs partitions that it does.

Fair enough on the FFS/FAT formatting, didnt realise that was the issue.  

How does it work with mixed drives with ntfs and linux then ?

Is that because the bootloader resides in sector 0.  I am seeking enlightement here, not questioning your knowledge.  

Would like to know for my own data banks

[davideo]

@alexh

I'll have a nose around tonight when I get home from work.

Dave G  8-)

[rkauer]

alexh wrote:
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The Amiga of course cannot read/write NTFS without a 3rd party driver (which probably doesn't exist)

 Alex, m8, there is a "driver" who manage NTFS in the Amiga! I just don't remember its name right now.

 It is available on Aminet. here!

[LoadWB]

rkauer wrote:

 Alex, m8, there is a "driver" who manage NTFS in the Amiga! I just don't remember its name right now.

 It is available on Aminet. here!

Good job!  I remember seeing one before, but a Google search didn't turn up anything, and I didn't have but a second so I did not do a direct AmiNet search.  I think I'll be playing with that this weekend.

So, the though occurs to me that probably the best way to do what I want is to get a Subway or Deneb and a USB CF reader.  That would also open up other expansion options.  (For that matter, I could get one of those 50-in-one card readers that mounts in the 3.5" bay.)

[alexh]

rkauer wrote:
there is a "driver" who manage NTFS in the Amiga! I just don't remember its name right now.

 It is available on Aminet. here!

Read only. Making it totally useless for transferring files FROM the Amiga.

[alexh]

LoadWB wrote:
So, the though occurs to me that probably the best way to do what I want is to get a Subway or Deneb and a USB CF reader

Hmm, spend £80-150 on USB adapter OR ....spend £5 on a IDE->CF adapter and power-cycle your Amiga when you want to remove the card.

I know which one makes most sense to me.

[rkauer]

alexh wrote:
Read only. Making it totally useless for transferring files FROM the Amiga.

 Hmm... In this case...

 Giggledisk!

[alexh]

What do you think that Giggledisk tool can do??

[LoadWB]

alexh wrote:

LoadWB wrote:
So, the though occurs to me that probably the best way to do what I want is to get a Subway or Deneb and a USB CF reader

Hmm, spend £80-150 on USB adapter OR ....spend £5 on a IDE->CF adapter and power-cycle your Amiga when you want to remove the card.

I know which one makes most sense to me.

I guess that depends upon your purposes.  With the UKP50-180 USB adapter, I can also use USB drives, flash devices, mouse and keyboard, and the 50-in-one card reader to read more than just CF cards.

I know which makes sense to *me*.

Read only. Making it totally useless for transferring files FROM the Amiga.

Yeah, but there's more times that I transfer files *to* the Amiga than from.  But in any case, I have an X-Surf and use SMB-Mount so I don't really have to depend upon media to move files to and from my Amiga.

BTW, are you okay?  Any particular reason for the overwhelming rash of negativity lately?  You're being a real buzz-kill these days.

[alexh]

LoadWB wrote:
Any particular reason for the overwhelming rash of negativity lately?

Erm, hadn't realised I had been. And it's called realism, not negativity :-)

You have to admit that wanting a USB host card solely for its hot-swap capability (which is what I read into your posts) is a bit crazy??

You also have to admit that wanting to format a CF card in NTFS is also a bit crazy considering they are so small and you can use FAT and have full compatibility.

And you have to admit that referring to an Amiga NTFS driver (which is cool, cos I wasn't sure there was one) but failing to mention in your post that it cannot WRITE isn't great homework?

While there is no implied negativity in my posts, I'll try and put the coddling around my answers you seem to desire

Where are my notes on how to avoid negativity in the work place... ahh yes... "That was a great reply, interesting conclusions, but have you thought that perhaps..." :-D

LoadWB wrote:
You're being a real buzz-kill these days.

I think BuZz would disagree with you, I had a beer with him on Monday and when I left he was alive and well and went off to do some work on Exotica. :lol:

[LoadWB]

You should have read my posts instead of reading into them.  My post about the USB clearly stated that other options would be available to me above and beyond the simple IDE interface.

And since USB can be used for things other than just cards, I might infer as a reader that the NTFS driver would be useful for those other purposes: hard drives, flash drives, and whatever.  Especially since I never said that I would be formatting CF cards in NTFS, nor did I directly state that I would be using CF cards for file transport.  Again, smb-mount (or smb-connect, rather) is utilized for that purpose.  The CF interface was intended to be a carriage between my 4000 and 1200 system.

Personally, I do format all of my external devices with NTFS due to the increased reliability and security over FAT/FAT32.  Cards are a different story, since portable devices cannot do NTFS, at least none of which I am aware.  My Cannon camera and Palm LifeDrive do FAT and FAT32 on an SD, and my SE K790a does FAT32 on an M2.

So having said that, I believe it to be a realistic expectation to acquire a USB interface for my 4000D, install a multi-card reader as a replacement for the Zip drive currently in the 3.5" bay, and also provide myself with the flexibility of USB keyboard and mouse, flash drives, and external hard drives.  Maybe even a USB scanner.  If supported, perhaps USB-to-SCSI and my ScanJet 3c.

In any case, I think the simple answer to my original question is "No hot-swap IDE for CF."  Given that, I can go USB and find much more functionality than for what I had originally aimed.  Reasonable, realistic, and rational.

[alexh]

Expensive, inferior, irrational is what I say.

But it's your choice.

You should be aware that USB keyboards and mice do not work in games. (Or anything which bangs the hardware directly i.e. most non OS legal tools etc.)

[doctorq]

And it's called realism, not negativity :-)

Why even bother using an Amiga then? Why even bother developing things for it?

[alexh]

doctorq wrote:
Why even bother using an Amiga then?

Nostalgia & fun.

doctorq wrote:
Why even bother developing things for it?

Depends what it is.