MorphOS 2.0 Released

[redrumloa]

adolescent wrote:

redrumloa wrote:
You are correct, I just did a quick estimate in my head and I was off.

EURUSD=X   115   1.5793   181.6252

But we don't pay the 19% EU VAT so your original price is a closer.

Oh, yeah, thanks for pointing that out. I was right to begin with  ;-)

-Edit- Let us do the math.
111 EUR - 19% VAT = 89.91EUR
EURUSD=X   89.91   1.5883   142.8041

So in USD, the red-headed stepchild currency, it is $142.80 at current exchange rates.

[JKD]

Oh, yeah, thanks for pointing that out. I was right to begin with  

-Edit- Let us do the math.
111 EUR - 19% VAT = 89.91EUR
EURUSD=X   89.91   1.5883   142.8041

So in USD, the red-headed stepchild currency, it is $142.80 at current exchange rates.

OK..I wasn't thinking of that...where is the definitive US pricing?

Thanks guys..this may turn a no-way into a doable if I can get my hands on an Efika from Directron.

[yakumo9275]

pkillo wrote:
Well, I ordered an his radeon card from tigerdirect... it seems small enough considering the card looks to extend only about an inch past the agp connector... with any luck it will fit into the case... I should have everything tuesday so I'll know then!

I ordered one too, plus the HIS mini bracket conversion kit, but from newegg, since both were cheaper there...

just have to convince the wife to let me get a new hobby mobo etc...

on the other hand, I'm not liking what I am reading on morphzone, lots of efika problems, lockups, etc. no sound driver, etc etc etc.

[JKD]

...on the other hand, I'm not liking what I am reading on morphzone, lots of efika problems, lockups, etc.

Total lack of QA....am not impressed after all this time to be honest :-/

The no sound driver thing I can understand..it's probably unstable or buggy...so QA did catch something at least

[LoadWB]

Piru wrote:

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setenv boot-device ide:0
setenv boot-file boot.img [any extra boot options here]
setenv auto-boot-timeout 5000 [that's 5 seconds, adjust if you like]
setenv auto-boot? true


That looks like stuff from a Sun SPARC machine... are Open Firmware and Open Boot related?

[spihunter]

@bloodline,

To do what with it?  It is a high price when I can do more with my existing Amiga and Mac/Win machines... my point is that the MOS team need a killer app...

Since when has any Amiga had a killer app besides maybe Hollywood anyway? Go use your other machines for awhile and let us have our fun here. :lol:

[stefcep2]

ffastback wrote:
@stefcep2

stefcep2 wrote:
YOU might consider it a worthwhile hobby to just be able to start up an OS so as to open and close a few directories, and gaze at the pretty icons and backdrops, for most other people the novelty will wear off pretty quickly if thats ALL you can do with it.

But thats certainly not all you can do with it,......  So you make absolutely no point here IMO.  

THAT was my point.  I don't know much about Morphos, and it was, at the time difficult to find out if any software ran on it. The official site is minimalist in the extreme, and doesn't try to promote what software runs on it.  I had NO expectations of Morphos even be remotely close to having the software support that Apple or MS or even AmigaOS have, but it was not clear that ANYTHING worthwhile run on it at all. Ok so its about nostalgia, and therefore for existing users, its your money, but I doubt that many new users will go and buy this

[Firedawg]

Got home today and downloaded the 11mb file for MorphOS 2.0.  I will have to say that it was a joy to see my Efika and ATI Radeon 9250 and 60gb Hitachi 2.5" HD finely going to work after a long storage period.  

I got it all installed and played with it briefly for I had family responsibilities to attend to.  I will say it was quite responsive and looked very sharp from what I could see after the install and a quick reboot.  But, I will give it more of a testing tomorrow when I have more time.  

For those who have not installed MorphOS 2.0 yet, remember that you will have to download the 130mb OS image file during the OS install phase, the 11mb is just the installer.  

You must complete your install under the 30 minute demo time limit, or it will stop you in your tracks.  Just boot up and get to installing (downloading) immediately.

Mike


 

[DamageX]

wrt my earlier question, I guess the PCI slot on Efika is 3.3V only, hence most cards (which are 5V) won't plug into it. So I ordered a couple more cheap AGP video cards from geeks.com

new question: does MorphOS include GOOD documentation related to making MorphOS-native programs?

[Piru]

does MorphOS include GOOD documentation related to making MorphOS-native programs?

http://morphos-dev.net/ has some info on how to get started.

In general the documentation could always be better, for sure... MDC has the SDK available, tons of info and (usually) helpful people:
MorphOS Developer Connection

We will be working on the new SDK with support for the new MOS 2.0 things in it, too, and plan to get it released as soon as possible. It will take some time, however.

[Darrin]

Firedawg wrote:

For those who have not installed MorphOS 2.0 yet, remember that you will have to download the 130mb OS image file during the OS install phase, the 11mb is just the installer.  

You must complete your install under the 30 minute demo time limit, or it will stop you in your tracks.  Just boot up and get to installing (downloading) immediately.

Mike

Thanks for that tip.  I hope that flakey cable connection of mine holds out for the 30 mins as it's been giving me hell for the last few months and the cable company seem uninterested/unable to fix it.

[Golem!dk]

It should be possible to download the iso beforehand, put it on your usb flash drive and simply point the installer at it. No need to worry about the timeout waiting for it to download then (dunno how much the timeout would actually slow down the installation procedure).

[gazgod]

@Golem!dk

That is exactly how i installed it on my efika, as I'd already downloaded the iso, i didn't want to download it again.

Gaz

[ffastback]

@stefcep2

stefcep2 wrote:

THAT was my point.  I don't know much about Morphos, and it was, at the time difficult to find out if any software ran on it. The official site is minimalist in the extreme, and doesn't try to promote what software runs on it.  I had NO expectations of Morphos even be remotely close to having the software support that Apple or MS or even AmigaOS have, but it was not clear that ANYTHING worthwhile run on it at all. Ok so its about nostalgia, and therefore for existing users, its your money, but I doubt that many new users will go and buy this

You say you don't know much about Morphos, and yet you felt comfortable enough to start talking about it being an OS that you could maybe close and open directories and gaze at pretty icons and backdrops, with not much else.  Maybe it would have been more prudent to find out more before talking in these terms?  You are just adding fuel to the fire of the chants of it being too expensive without you yourself having enough info to make a fair determination for yourself (at least at the time of your intial comments).

[stefcep2]

ffastback wrote:
@stefcep2

stefcep2 wrote:

THAT was my point.  I don't know much about Morphos, and it was, at the time difficult to find out if any software ran on it. The official site is minimalist in the extreme, and doesn't try to promote what software runs on it.  I had NO expectations of Morphos even be remotely close to having the software support that Apple or MS or even AmigaOS have, but it was not clear that ANYTHING worthwhile run on it at all. Ok so its about nostalgia, and therefore for existing users, its your money, but I doubt that many new users will go and buy this

You say you don't know much about Morphos, and yet you felt comfortable enough to start talking about it being an OS that you could maybe close and open directories and gaze at pretty icons and backdrops, with not much else.  Maybe it would have been more prudent to find out more before talking in these terms?  You are just adding fuel to the fire of the chants of it being too expensive without you yourself having enough info to make a fair determination for yourself (at least at the time of your intial comments).

WTF?
My very first post was the question :"what runs on it?" because despite searching the simple morphos site, and more besides, I could not find a list of software that run on Morphos. But no-one answered my question. Another guy more or less raises the same question, no-one answers and he therefore reasonably concludes that if no software runs on it, then its too expensive for him to spend that sort of money on hardware and an OS that doesn't run any software. The obvious thing would have been for people like you to enlighten us both with your knowledge of what, exactly, runs on it.  But no, he's then attacked for being too tight-arsed to support the developers that have worked so hard to release this.  Again no-one bothers to say what runs on it.  So if you can't run any software, what else can you do with the OS but "close and open directories and gaze at pretty icons and backdrops, with not much else".  When a list of software that runs on Morphos was posted I acknowledged this.  No-one is begrudging you your new toy, enjoy it, but don't attack me just because I asked a reasonable question that Morphos fans like you seemed to not want to answer, and in fact seemed to deliberately avoid.

[Firedawg]

@gazgod & Golem!dk,

Correct, the prudent thing to do is download the ISO (130mb) first and place it on your usb device then install.  Was not totally aware of all the processes until I was going through the install.

Not sure where to find this install ISO file (130mb) for the Efika install.  Maybe some one can point me to the download.

For those who are considering installing MorphOS 2.0 below is link to a well written article to get you started.

  MorphOS 2.0 Install Instructions

Mike