MorphOS 2.0 Released

[Darrin]

zylesea wrote:
@ Darrin

The time-out is 30 min. It's enough to get a good impression. Since the rebbot time is quite fast it is okay to get first impressions of the system and play a bit around. But still it is annoying enough to make you either register soon, or give up.
Btw.: It works cool on my Efika.  

Thanks Zylesea.

Only 30 mins?  I was expecting a week at least in order to test some software properly.  Hell, if I installed it and then my wife phoned me then that could be the end of my demo!  :-D

Ah well, I'm going to buy it anyway so no big deal.

[ffastback]

@bloodline

bloodline wrote:

People on here talk about small dev teams and small volume sold to justify a high price... but, it's hard to accept when it is essentially just a luxuary item, not something that one actually needs!

No one "needs" anything Amiga related anymore.  We could all be spending very little to run Ubuntu machines only at home.  Of course we could all eat tuna out of cans to save money and not go to any nice restaurants every once and a while.  We could all trade in the cars some of us own to get 60 MPG on a vespa scooter.  We could tell our wives that they never "need" a nice handbag from Coach.  Whats your bloody point?  No one said it was a "need".  Its a luxury item as you say and its not making itself out to be anything but that.  Sure it can be a useful one, but a luxury item nonetheless.  The big difference is, while Coach makes a bundle on the handbag, and the ritzy restaurant makes a bundle on your meal, the MOS team is likely taking a loss on this whole affair.  The way you talk it would seem your advice to them would be not to develop anything at all.  Its a hobby and hobbies cost money, especially ones that have a small amount of hobbyists.

[ffastback]

@arnljot

arnljot wrote:

I think that they must have some investors backing them, thinking that the OS can one day become a good os to sell to embedded devices (such as tvs etc).

I believe Genesi has contributed some funding to the MOS team on this project.

I think that even with an item price of €500 and the same number of sold products as with a €150 tag, it´s still a loss project.

I agree, thankfully they were good enough to proceed on this project anyway as a labor of love.   :-)

[Senex]

Only 30 mins? I was expecting a week at least in order to test some software properly.

You might have got that wrong: after 30 minutes, the OS slows down. After rebooting, you have again 30 minutes. Thus in theory, also MorphOS 2.0 is still free, if one really can't afford the price - he has just to organize his work accordingly.

[Darrin]

You might have got that wrong: after 30 minutes, the OS slows down. After rebooting, you have again 30 minutes. Thus in theory, also MorphOS 2.0 is still free, if one really can't afford the price - he has just to organize his work accordingly.

Oh right.  That's a smart idea and allows people to test software at full speed for 30 minutes after (re)booting.  To be honest, all I want to do before buying it is to see if it installs OK and runs the software OK.

Big question here, what's the Amiga classic software support like?  Does it run them off Ambient or through something like UAE?  Any support for running games from ADF files?  OCS/ECS/AGA support?

Cheers.

[gazgod]

Darrin wrote:

Big question here, what's the Amiga classic software support like?  Does it run them off Ambient or through something like UAE?  Any support for running games from ADF files?  OCS/ECS/AGA support?

The support for workbench friendly apps is excellent in Morphos. I've been using my peg 2 with morphos 1.4.5 as my primary Amiga for 2 years plus. I used to run miami tcp and the 68k prism2 drivers on it for example. For games and custom chip dependent apps you need UAE. The only 68k app I've used on 2.0 so far is Dirwork 2 and it worked flawlessly as with the previous version.

Gaz

[Darrin]

gazgod wrote:
The support for workbench friendly apps is excellent in Morphos. I've been using my peg 2 with morphos 1.4.5 as my primary Amiga for 2 years plus. I used to run miami tcp and the 68k prism2 drivers on it for example. For games and custom chip dependent apps you need UAE. The only 68k app I've used on 2.0 so far is Dirwork 2 and it worked flawlessly as with the previous version.

Gaz

Cheers.

So things like Wordsworth should be OK, but I'll need to run UAE for MorphOS to run stuff that needs the full chipset.

OK, so I take it there is a UAE for MorphOS?  How does it compare to WinUAE/Cloanto's package?

[downix]

Must.... resist.... buying... new.... system... and... upsetting... wife.....

[wlfrancis]

Greetings,

I am sure this has been addressed in other posts but does it have:

>a decent browser
>email client
>and basic media player
>the ability to play BEAST and similar games

If so it might be fun to use in my tv room hooked up to the flat screen.  Any thoughts?  Also where is the best place to buy the OS?  I know the boards are available on AmigaKit at a decent price.  I am OK with paying a bit of a premium since it is such a specialty item.  And what about a case... what form factor is the board?

Sorry if questions are redundant.  I just pop in from time to time, but would like to support the community and like the idea of having a system unlike any of my friends.

My friend is hacking my old xbox and putting linux media center on it for me so maybe I am up in the night trying to use this (efika/morphos2) system for my tv room...?

Thanks for any thoughts and suggestions.

-wlfrancis

PS

in USA if the makes a difference

I think the price tag on morphos is completely reasonable. It's not much more than a copy of Windows would cost, especially if you buy in the first two weeks (then it's only 111 euro instead of 150), and it's certainly a lot less expensive than many of the software packages I've purchased in the past. Of course, I'm biased here, being a programmer myself. :lol:

OK, since I'm now waiting patiently (actually, I'm impatient - I admit it :-P ) for my Efika to arrive so I can start to use morphos, can someone fill me in on what development tools are available for it? If those of us who can code put in some time in making free software for morphos, then we might just see that Mac port after all.

Personally, I don't think that they'll ever make enough selling copies to efika and pegasos owners to recoup their investment. However, if the technological hurdles can be overcome to make a Mac version, and the time between now and its release can be used to create a strong software base for morphos, that would improve the chance for the success of the platform.

In any case, I think I'm going to be very happy when my Efika arrives!  :-D  

[motorollin]

I'm tempted to spend £50 on an EFIKA to have a play around with MOS 2.0, but Directron don't seem to ship outside the US :-(

--
moto

[Darrin]

downix wrote:
Must.... resist.... buying... new.... system... and... upsetting... wife.....

My wife dropped a big hint to me just before I went to work about my computer habbit which is why I'm going to eBay some of my Amigas.

Since Christmas I've added a Minimig, C128 with MMC Replay, an A4000 and a new HP Pavilion 9700 laptop.  In fairness to me, I did give her my old HP 8000 laptop as a peace offering.  :-)

[Darrin]

wlfrancis wrote:
Also where is the best place to buy the OS?

I was wondering this when I first spotted the news until I figured out that you can just download it off the MorphOS website and then get an activation code online.  Easy.  :-D

[JKD]

by downix on 2008/7/1 11:01:34

Must.... resist.... buying... new.... system... and... upsetting... wife.....

You and me both man!

I think she was elated when I reduced the 10 computer count down to 3...less so when I upped the guitar quotient because of it..but still  :-D

[zyphoid]

wlfrancis wrote:
Greetings,

I am sure this has been addressed in other posts but does it have: http://www.morphos-team.net/releasenotes-2.0.html

>a decent browser
yes sputnik

>email client
? yam i guess

>and basic media player
reggae is a streamer, vlc is and others are available on aminet

>the ability to play BEAST and similar games
possibly through uae is full chip is needed

 > Also where is the best place to buy the OS?  
Download time out demo
http://www.morphos-team.net/news.html

I know the boards are available on AmigaKit at a decent price.  I am OK with paying a bit of a premium since it is such a specialty item.  And what about a case... what form factor is the board?
there's also http://www.directron.com/efikakit1.html

>Sorry if questions are redundant.  I just pop in from time to time, but would like to support the community and like the idea of having a system unlike any of my friends.
no problem


Thanks for any thoughts and suggestions.

-wlfrancis

PS

in USA if the makes a difference

Im in delaware

[JKD]

by motorollin on 2008/7/1 11:22:20

I'm tempted to spend £50 on an EFIKA to have a play around with MOS 2.0, but Directron don't seem to ship outside the US

I could order and ship you one so long as you covered all the costs..but you might be better served someone on the East Coast offering this.

The thing probably weighs <2lbs, it'd probably be about $25/$30 to USPS Priority Int'l it to you.