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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
« Reply #179 from previous page: June 27, 2008, 03:45:17 PM »
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no 2000 people are going to gather around a risky project with uncertain outcome to donate each 500-1000$. face it. even a single sponsor is more likely

Hi wawrzon,

What if, and I say, what if theoretically:

The NatAmi60 is made, and appeared to be bug free, and IS astounding (as I know it will be), ACube said; "we'll make this if 1,000 people are wiling to prepay $700 or 1500 are willing to prepay $600 for us to make a small run of computers."

How about then? We're basically kind of limited to that at the moment.
\\"Which would you buy? The Crappy A1200, 15 years out of date... or the Mobile Phone that I have?\\" -- bloodline
So I guess that A500, 600, 1000, 2000, CDTV, CD32, are pure garbage then? Thanks for posting here.
 

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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
« Reply #180 on: June 27, 2008, 03:47:45 PM »
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as far as i understood biggun if he ever spoke of asic, then only as an option in case some bigger company had an interest to use future natami-technik in a device like sort of pda.


Certainly once one has the HDL of the chip, an ASIC could be made. Indeed, in the next 20 yearsit might become possible to make ASICs of the required complexity for a tiny fraction of the cost they are now...

But unfortunately I must refer back to my German supermodel argument... While it's possible that I might be dating one this time next year... it's VERY unlikely, so unlikely I may as well consider it impossible...

There is no technical reason why any company would chose anything related to the Amiga hardware for their own designs... it simply does not make any sense for any company to do so.

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in that case something related to amiga technik might again appear on the market. whatever consequences it might have to amiga community i dare not foresee. the asic natami computers could be probably constructed to smaller quantities in this case, so to say "by the way".


If a comapny is going to produce these chips it's highly likely they would sell them with a markup to help lower their own costs... but like the German supermodel, who has no reason to date me... no company as any reason to use NATAMI... there are modern, cheaper, better supported designs that they can buy.

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edit: the failure of similar past ideas like setup boxes based on amiga-technology would indicate that one couldnt rely much on such possibility.


Yes, that's painfully true. I think even in the late 90s the idea of using the AGA chipset in a comercial product was a very shakey idea... it did offer some advantages, like Genlocking and TV resolution support... but still it was old, power hungry and required a lot of silicon...

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no 2000 people are going to gather around a risky project with uncertain outcome to donate each 500-1000$. face it. even a single sponsor is more likely


He is not alone in his beliefs though.

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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
« Reply #181 on: June 27, 2008, 03:51:05 PM »
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wawrzon wrote:

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no 2000 people are going to gather around a risky project with uncertain outcome to donate each 500-1000$. face it. even a single sponsor is more likely

Hi wawrzon,

What if, and I say, what if theoretically:

The NatAmi60 is made, and appeared to be bug free, and IS astounding (as I know it will be), ACube said; "we'll make this if 1,000 people are wiling to prepay $700 or 1500 are willing to prepay $600 for us to make a small run of computers."

How about then? We're basically kind of limited to that at the moment.



If we are going to think theoretically why don't we say that 1.3 billion people were to buy the NatAmi60? How about then?

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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
« Reply #182 on: June 27, 2008, 04:01:15 PM »
Hi bloodline,

We have DiscreetFX. They might give it a try. There's ACube. There's venerable Software Hut and also KGrach.

Alan Redhouse said he was only in it if it was fun, well, this may qualify as "fun"..... don't think there are NatAmi60 trolls lurking anywhere around, do you?
\\"Which would you buy? The Crappy A1200, 15 years out of date... or the Mobile Phone that I have?\\" -- bloodline
So I guess that A500, 600, 1000, 2000, CDTV, CD32, are pure garbage then? Thanks for posting here.
 

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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
« Reply #183 on: June 27, 2008, 04:01:15 PM »
i do not know if natami60 is really already complete. methinks its just your guess again. i recall all i was told officially was, there is a working 030 prototype and that they are working to adopt an 060. i believe it when i see it, like i trust them to have 030 prototype cause they posted photos of it.

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The NatAmi60 is made, and appeared to be bug free, and IS astounding (as I know it will be), ACube said; "we'll make this if 1,000 people are wiling to prepay $700 or 1500 are willing to prepay $600 for us to make a small run of computers."

How about then? We're basically kind of limited to that at the moment.

-exactly.
 

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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
« Reply #184 on: June 27, 2008, 04:07:29 PM »
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i do not know if natami60 is really already complete.

Hi wawrzon,

They hope to get it available by this summer, end of August.

I would say (opinion!) August to November this year. Maybe!!!!
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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
« Reply #186 on: June 27, 2008, 04:50:56 PM »
@bloodline: i do not exactly recall ur argument about the supermodel but why must she be german? you have kate moss in england urself.  by the way: back in gymnasium i had a blonde, sexy girlfriend that studied teoretical physics afterwards, i met her 2 weeks ago, shes a doctor in kosmology by now, y know, and she still seems to cheat on men. things happen.
 

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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
« Reply #187 on: June 27, 2008, 05:02:04 PM »
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@bloodline: i do not exactly recall ur argument about the supermodel but why must she be german?


Yeah... she really must be German... I'm learning the language at the moment, and I would find it a massive advantage :-)

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you have kate moss in england urself.  


I don't like Kate Moss... and I'm not scabby enough for her...

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by the way: back in gymnasium i had a blonde, sexy girlfriend that studied teoretical physics afterwards, i met her 2 weeks ago, shes a doctor in kosmology by now, y know, and she still seems to cheat on men. things happen.


I assume gymnasium = "high school", that means she's German... :idea: :-D

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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
« Reply #188 on: June 27, 2008, 05:08:46 PM »
gymnasium... i actually should say "liceum" thats what it is called. and she is polish just like me, although i live in berlin. but dont let us go ot too much:|)
 

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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
« Reply #189 on: June 27, 2008, 05:12:51 PM »
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gymnasium... i actually should say "liceum" thats what it is called. and she is polish just like me, although i live in berlin. but dont let us go ot too much:|)


Oh no, Polish is no good, I'm not learning Polish :-P

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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
« Reply #190 on: June 27, 2008, 05:34:58 PM »
shes too old for u anyway i suppose
 

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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
« Reply #191 on: June 27, 2008, 05:39:49 PM »
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shes too old for u anyway i suppose


 :-o How old is she?

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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
« Reply #192 on: June 27, 2008, 05:51:48 PM »
you dont ask ladys things like that, she is polish anyway. so now im going afk, partytime.
 

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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
« Reply #193 on: June 27, 2008, 06:08:49 PM »
Hey Wawrzon,
I know some Polish, like 'dzien dobry' and 'jak sie masz'?
I think these two line alone are enough to get a Polish 'girlfriend' interested in a conversation:)
Mind you, I seem to have mostly dated psychologists - ditto...no connection there.
Anyway, b4 this turns into Ami-date, I am glad to say that Amigas are still popular over here, so rock n roll>>
a piwo 4 all!
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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
« Reply #194 on: June 27, 2008, 06:13:02 PM »
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you dont ask ladys things like that, she is polish anyway. so now im going afk, partytime.


Bah! This thread was just becoming interesting...