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Offline Hans_

Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #164 from previous page: August 28, 2008, 11:07:40 PM »
AFAIK the OS4 Radeon driver doesn't even use the ROM. If there are any issues due to different versions, then this means that the driver needs a little more work.

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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #165 on: August 29, 2008, 07:29:04 AM »
this all is interesting... so how much does that mac mini cost? what would be realistic price for model with 1.25Ghz?
(a bit offtopic, sorry)
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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #166 on: August 29, 2008, 08:47:49 AM »
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so how much does that mac mini cost?


I paid EUR 190,- for mine (1.33 GHz silent upgrade with 1 GB RAM).

@Piru: Are all the boards listed on your screenshot actually working?
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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #167 on: August 29, 2008, 01:33:04 PM »
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Are all the boards listed on your screenshot actually working?

Some don't have drivers. Obviously there is still work to do.
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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #168 on: August 29, 2008, 01:55:50 PM »
Here are my radeon´s specs:

ATI Radeon 9200:

  Modelo de chipset:   ATY,RV280
  Tipo:   Pantalla
  Bus:   AGP
  VRAM (total):   32 MB
  Fabricante:   ATI (0x1002)
  ID del dispositivo:   0x5962
  ID de la revisión:   0x0001
  Revisión de la ROM:   113-xxxxx-120
  Pantallas:
SDM-E96D:
  Resolución:   1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz
  Profundidad:   Color de 32 bits
  Core Image:   Incompatible
  Pantalla principal:   Sí
  Duplicado:   Desactivado
  En línea:   Sí
  Quartz Extreme:   Compatible
  Rotación:   Compatible

Hope this helps.

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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #169 on: August 29, 2008, 02:34:35 PM »
It seems possible
113-xxxxx-120 = Black Screen
113-xxxxx-116 = Garbled Screen
113-xxxxx-133 = Works

Yes Id be intrested to know if MorphOS works across all version of the Rom Revision at all resolutions
The drivers need patching ;-)
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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #170 on: August 29, 2008, 03:52:46 PM »
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Id be intrested to know if MorphOS works across all version of the Rom Revision at all resolutions

Naturally.

My Mini has -120 for example.
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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #171 on: August 30, 2008, 12:09:14 AM »
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BooBoo1200 wrote:
It seems possible
113-xxxxx-120 = Black Screen
113-xxxxx-116 = Garbled Screen
113-xxxxx-133 = Works


This is mathematics?, maybe is only a bad driver.

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Yes Id be intrested to know if MorphOS works across all version of the Rom Revision at all resolutions
The drivers need patching ;-)


Please morphos have an official support isnt like moana, developers will make morphos runs in all macminis.
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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #172 on: August 30, 2008, 09:05:50 PM »
Machine Model:   PowerMac10,1
 CPU Type:   PowerPC G4  (1.1)
 Number Of CPUs:   1
 CPU Speed:   1.42 GHz
 L2 Cache (per CPU):   512 KB
 Memory:   256 MB
 Bus Speed:   167 MHz
 Boot ROM Version:   4.8.9f1

ATI Radeon 9200:

 Chipset Model:   ATY,RV280
 Type:   Display
 Bus:   AGP
 VRAM (Total):   32 MB
 Vendor:   ATI (0x1002)
 Device ID:   0x5962
 Revision ID:   0x0001
 ROM Revision:   113-xxxxx-116


I get a black screen with num/scroll/caps lock stuck on :-(

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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #173 on: August 30, 2008, 09:10:45 PM »
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 ROM Revision:   113-xxxxx-116


I get a black screen with num/scroll/caps lock stuck on :-(


Well that screws up kickstart's little table above. So the black screen, garbled-screen, all-good differences may be due to other factors.

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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #174 on: August 30, 2008, 09:39:35 PM »
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Please morphos have an official support isnt like moana, developers will make morphos runs in all macminis.


Let's dream bigger and hope for MorphOS running on ALL PPC Macs!  Not just the Mac Mini's. :-D
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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #175 on: August 30, 2008, 09:42:31 PM »
If enough people test Moana, then it should be possible through a process of elimination to establish exactly what is preventing it from working properly, and hopefully then work towards fixing the boot CD to work around it.

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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #176 on: August 30, 2008, 09:58:08 PM »
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If enough people test Moana, then it should be possible through a process of elimination to establish exactly what is preventing it from working properly, and hopefully then work towards fixing the boot CD to work around it.

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I agree and look forward to it.

But how do you (we) "work around" getting it legally from Hyperion/AOS4 Team, and how do we stop it from dying a slow death at the hands of A.Inc, should they prevail in their attempt to obtain AOS4?   :-?
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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #177 on: August 30, 2008, 10:26:38 PM »
why don't you all run some special hardware identifying software like everest/sisoftSandra on PC (there must be something similar for macmini) and compare outputs?
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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #178 on: August 30, 2008, 10:46:41 PM »
@amigadave
Hopefully Moana is enough for someone to get it working. Then there's little AInc can do - it's already out there!

@orange
I think the information from System Profiler (the stuff people have been posting) is probably enough. There is more information in there, but from the sounds of it the video card and firmware version are the stumbling blocks. I think once the working combinations have been identified it should be possible to work out why some machines don't work, and whether a fix is possible.

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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #179 on: August 30, 2008, 10:53:57 PM »
I knew all of you were closet pirates.  :lol:
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