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Installing a cd-rom drive on my a4000
« on: June 13, 2008, 09:28:41 PM »
I am having troubles with installing a cd-rom drive on my a4000.

Does anyone know of a guide I can follow?
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Re: Installing a cd-rom drive on my a4000
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2008, 09:34:32 PM »
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I am having troubles with installing a cd-rom drive on my a4000.

Does anyone know of a guide I can follow?


You have my sympathies!

I won an A4000 on ebay earlier this month and then I spent days fighting with the internal IDE interface to detect 2 drives (Hard drive and CD ROM) with no luck despite trying multiple drives and cables.

Finally I plugged a USB DVD-RW into my Deneb USB port and the A4000 picked it straight up.

I've ordered a Zorro 4-device IDE card from AmigaKit which should solve my problems (and provide faster access).
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Re: Installing a cd-rom drive on my a4000
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2008, 09:58:45 PM »
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I won an A4000 on ebay earlier this month and then I spent days fighting with the internal IDE interface to detect 2 drives (Hard drive and CD ROM) with no luck despite trying multiple drives and cables.


You are kidding, right? Harddrive as master, CD/CDR/CDRW/DVD as slave, install Workbench and install IDEfix97 from Aminet and you are set.
 

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Re: Installing a cd-rom drive on my a4000
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2008, 10:07:01 PM »
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You are kidding, right? Harddrive as master, CD/CDR/CDRW/DVD as slave, install Workbench and install IDEfix97 from Aminet and you are set.


No, I'm not kidding.

What you describes is what SHOULD happen, but doesn't.

A slave device will not mount and wont ebven be detected using applications such as FINDDEVICE and SCSIMOUNTER which you would expect to locate and list any devices attached to the SCSI.device (only a Master device shows up as Unit 0).

LIke I said, I tried muliple cables, multiple devices and all I can think of it that the onboard IDE has gone tits up for some reason.

I've even tried 2 hard drives connected as Master and Slave.  The Master device shows up and can be formatted/installed/etc while the other is a no-show.  Swap them around and the one you could see as Master is now invisible as Slave and the old invisible slave is now visible as Master.  Swapping their positions on the cable doesn't help - it's just the Master/Slave option.
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Re: Installing a cd-rom drive on my a4000
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2008, 10:11:55 PM »
Is the only device listed in FindDevice the scsi.device? If so, copy the atapi.device from the IDEfix package to devs: and start FindDevice again.

As for CD drives; I have tried plenty, but the only ones that have given me problems are ASUS drives.
 

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Re: Installing a cd-rom drive on my a4000
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2008, 10:15:06 PM »
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Is the only device listed in FindDevice the scsi.device? If so, copy the atapi.device from the IDEfix package to devs: and start FindDevice again.

As for CD drives; I have tried plenty, but the only ones that have given me problems are ASUS drives.


Yes, just the SCSI.device.

OK, thanks for the tip - I'll try it again later.

Cheers.
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Re: Installing a cd-rom drive on my a4000
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2008, 11:34:40 PM »
@ doctorq:

Got it!  It's finally shown up as Unit 1.

I used IDEFix last time, but I'd screwed around before hand with various CD files systems that I may have messed it up.
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Re: Installing a cd-rom drive on my a4000
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2008, 11:35:29 PM »
@Darrin

Glad you got it sorted :-)
 

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Re: Installing a cd-rom drive on my a4000
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2008, 11:51:55 PM »
I never had problems installing a CD-ROM (DVD-RW etc) on my A4000. As said before always the hard disk must be master (check the hd's jumper) and the CD-ROM as slave (check again the jumper beside the device). Anyway my Amiga recognized them straight away without any problems as unit 0 and 1.
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Re: Installing a cd-rom drive on my a4000
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2008, 01:11:48 AM »
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I never had problems installing a CD-ROM (DVD-RW etc) on my A4000. As said before always the hard disk must be master (check the hd's jumper) and the CD-ROM as slave (check again the jumper beside the device). Anyway my Amiga recognized them straight away without any problems as unit 0 and 1.


Did you have to use IDEFix too or did WB3.1 do it straight off the bat?
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Re: Installing a cd-rom drive on my a4000
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2008, 12:08:00 PM »
So I should be using the cable that connects to the hard drive not the floppy?
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Re: Installing a cd-rom drive on my a4000
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2008, 12:09:17 PM »
No. I installed AmigaOS 3.9 the first time.
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Re: Installing a cd-rom drive on my a4000
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2008, 04:13:03 PM »
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So I should be using the cable that connects to the hard drive not the floppy?


Yes, the single IDE port on the A4000 supports 2 devices.  The floppy connector also supports 2 floppy drives.
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Re: Installing a cd-rom drive on my a4000
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2008, 04:14:11 PM »
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No. I installed AmigaOS 3.9 the first time.


Ah, that explains it.  I'm still waiting for my Kickstart 3.1 ROMs to arrive to install OS3.9.
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Re: Installing a cd-rom drive on my a4000
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2008, 04:31:20 PM »
I am having the same issues, so all I need to do is set the hard disk as 'Primary' and the CD-ROM as 'Slave' so that it can be used on 1 cable (connected to the motherboard)?
What if the HD has no jumper options?